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    Toxic DPS

    Just got out of Saint Mocianne’s Arboretum (Hard) as DRK. Pulled roughly two mobs at a time and at one point a SAM ran ahead and started fighting another mob while I and the team were still dealing with my current pull. I responded “Don’t pull ahead of me, please”. Their response? “Then pull like a man.” I explained I’m not a tank main and going at a pace I’m comfortable with and to not be a dick. They responded “Don’t make me laugh”.
    The last boss they and the rest of the team died to failed mechanics but I managed to solo the boss from about 40%. It felt good, but my mood’s been soured from this toxic DPS. Is their behavior reportable? If not, how do you tank mains go about dealing with it?
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    Not sure if it's reportable, but if I get something that like that I generally either bite my tongue and move past it the best I can or I'll say something back if it annoys me enough, then move past it after the instance is over. I hate it when dps pull for me too but it's something we generally deal with and get used to just pulling the mobs they did. That and it can be considered griefing if we let them die because we didn't take the mobs off them...which is reportable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxel View Post
    how do you tank mains go about dealing with it?
    I take the mobs off them and continue with my w2w pull.

    At Level 70 w2w pulls are the norm and should not be a problem, the ypyt mentality tanks are the toxic ones imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxel View Post
    Just got out of Saint Mocianne’s Arboretum (Hard) as DRK. Pulled roughly two mobs at a time and at one point a SAM ran ahead and started fighting another mob while I and the team were still dealing with my current pull. I responded “Don’t pull ahead of me, please”. Their response? “Then pull like a man.” I explained I’m not a tank main and going at a pace I’m comfortable with and to not be a dick. They responded “Don’t make me laugh”.
    The last boss they and the rest of the team died to failed mechanics but I managed to solo the boss from about 40%. It felt good, but my mood’s been soured from this toxic DPS. Is their behavior reportable? If not, how do you tank mains go about dealing with it?
    I don't know if it's wise to assume that your mood was the only one soured, as is implied here. If you'd been single-pulling for the entire dungeon, slowing the run by some 25+%, such is unlikely. If the majority of that group generally preferred a normal (full-pull) pace, they'd be just as in the right to kick you for insisting on slowing on the run as you'd be in the right to kick the SAM if s/he were alone in wanting to speed it up but insisted on doing so.

    More importantly, though, if you're single-pulling now, you're never going to get comfortable with more unless you push yourself at some point -- and the sooner the better, for the sake of your average parties' patience in the long term. Any time a DPS pulls for you, that's an excuse to go full out and learn; at worst case, you can blame that DPS if/when you wipe.

    Your job is not to be the sole puller. Your job, like everyone else's, is to speed up the clear as best you can.

    That does include not taking such odd risks as to likely die, but any such risks are absurdly rare, mostly limited to boss cheese, and their dangers quickly unmade by learning precisely how to do said cheese. W2W pulls are not a "risk", but rather the norm.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 02-16-2022 at 08:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    generally either bite my tongue and move past it the best I can or I'll say something back if it annoys me enough
    Can't edit on mobile but for clarification it's only if they say something snarky to me.

    Either way, yeah if I get them I just take the mobs because W2W is the norm as Niobee stated. That and I would W2W anyway because I love pulling everything to begin with
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    As a tank main my advice is don't be slow when your party can handle fast.
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    The level of snark and horrible attitude they had was unacceptable though. I wasn't pulling one at a time and frequently pulled up until we reached a barrier. Regardless of if you want me to go faster/slower, it's not hard to be respectful.
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    It wasn't the party, it was one DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxel View Post
    The level of snark and horrible attitude they had was unacceptable though. I wasn't pulling one at a time and frequently pulled up until we reached a barrier. Regardless of if you want me to go faster/slower, it's not hard to be respectful.
    How was the Samurai pulling more if you were going up to the barrier? If they were aggroing stuff before you, then just pull it off them and keep going.
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    There were like two times I thought we hit the barrier but didn’t (hadn’t ran that dungeon in awhile and got it in roulette). Normally I don’t even bother saying anything when someone pulls more but their attitude just really rubbed me the wrong way.
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