Something needs to be done about the state of Gil in FF14

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I disagree. Lower prices benefitted everyone.

The rich though now are just sitting in wealth that they will never use due to this while the average player can actually afford things without a ton of grinding or getting lucky drops.

Pretty much this. The only people upset about things being cheaper are the ones who used to make massive profits lol

[CrayonsAndPaint]

Pretty much this. The only people upset about things being cheaper are the ones who used to make massive profits lol

To be fair, the only people upset about wealthy players are the ones who didn’t dedicate enough time to crafting and gathering back then. As far as I’m concerned, those rich players deserve it, and they deserve to be the top 1% of players who own a large amount of Gil for a reason.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

To be fair, the only people upset about wealthy players are the ones who didn’t dedicate enough time to crafting and gathering back then. As far as I’m concerned, those rich players deserve it, and they deserve to be the top 1% of players who own a large amount of Gil for a reason.

I have over 120mil. And nothing to spend it on. I haven't spent gil in years. And I've had about the same amount for years as well, I don't really try to make any, nor do I have a reason to.

[CrayonsAndPaint]

I have over 120mil. And nothing to spend it on. I haven't spent gil in years. And I've had about the same amount for years as well, I don't really try to make any, nor do I have a reason to.

I’m talking about the players who are sitting on well over a billion Gil. Several billion Gil even, those old school hardcore crafters I mean.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I’m talking about the players who are sitting on well over a billion Gil. Several billion Gil even, those old school hardcore crafters I mean.

They never would have had anything to spend that amount of gil on.

And making crafting harder again wouldn't benefit them in any way. There's no point in having that much gil.

Also, crafting wasn't that much harder back then anyway. You just didn't have the prevalent guides/macros you do today because the community is that much bigger.

[Liam_Harper]

I disagree. Lower prices benefitted everyone.

Pretty much this. The only people upset about things being cheaper are the ones who used to make massive profits lol

This is nonsense because the ones who used to make massive profits are insanely rich and don't care about gil.

The only thing the old omnicrafters dislike is that there's nothing to do now. Those months of leveling, gearing, farming and finally making items with your hard earned set at least kept you occupied. Having a big pile of gil isn't much incentive when there's little to do with it, but at least it was something.

What's sad is the casual crafter doesn't realize how it impacts the game in many negative ways.
The pros are it's easier to be self-sufficient and access items. That's a valid positive.
The cons are that botting is rampant now because the environment is perfect for it. You can run an hour of maps and buy a full 580 set, which invalidates Normal Raids and makes content the devs pour time into have a short lifespan. It also means crafting only lasts a few days into a patch and then dies. Look at the DoH section on the forums, there are threads from last year on the front page. Gil is much harder to make for all crafters too, most people didn't realize that in Stormblood even the basic white sets sold for 1-300k apiece and many materials sold for thousands apiece so just having a gatherer and no crafters was viable too. Being rich wasn't pro crafter exclusive, it just took some effort and rewarded you for it, casual or not. Leve gil didn't need to be nerfed, even collectibles gave gil.

I do agree some things should be accessible, for example raid Potions and Food shouldn't have been tied to Master Recipes. But the current system is an empty husk that reduces the amount of content ingame, the rich are rich and don't care and the normal player scrapes for pennies.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

This is nonsense because the ones who used to make massive profits are insanely rich and don't care about gil.

It indeed doesn't make any sense, but it is what it is. Must be that entitlement thing. You know "I put effort into this convoluted sh*tstain of a system (which I macroed into oblivion, and still do, but it's ok since it's for my benefit), and now everyone can do it with relative ease and zero frustration. This is, of course, wrong and crazy."

Also, botting has always been rampant since nothing is done about it, least of all anything that would discourage people from continuing to do it. Those "action taken against" thing means less than nothing and are there just to keep dissenters quiet. You just gotta think of the savings!

[Skiros]

It indeed doesn't make any sense, but it is what it is. Must be that entitlement thing. You know "I put effort into this convoluted sh*tstain of a system (which I macroed into oblivion, and still do, but it's ok since it's for my benefit), and now everyone can do it with relative ease and zero frustration. This is, of course, wrong and crazy."

Also, botting has always been rampant since nothing is done about it, least of all anything that would discourage people from continuing to do it. Those "action taken against" thing means less than nothing and are there just to keep dissenters quiet. You just gotta think of the savings!

Botting has gotten *more* rampant over time. It's actually at an insane level now. 90% of the market board is filled with undercutting bots.