Something needs to be done about the state of Gil in FF14

[Skiros]

This is utter nonsense.

Ok...

I've made 2 million over the last two weeks not even TRYING to make gil.

/facepalm

"The people above who are all saying that gil is easy to obtain probably think 1M a day is some big number LOL"

There are still a lot of gil sinks in this game. Hiring crafters for your static, that's easily 200M. Buying enough materia took me 70-80M for the Savage tier. I also hired a designer to decorate my mansion once, that was like 100M or something. Buying FCs, that's 200M-999M for a mansion. Want to decorate? Walls can cost 10M-20M on the relevant patches. I can go on and on.

Obviously most casuals won't ever spend this amount of money but hey, just because you can't see a use for gil doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Raiding in particular is very expensive if you're hardcore. The materia and gear costs on day 1 per person can go up to 80M. I'd imagine it'd be cheaper in 6.2 and 6.4 since you'll have time to stock up on materia.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Ok...



/facepalm

"The people above who are all saying that gil is easy to obtain probably think 1M a day is some big number LOL"

There are still a lot of gil sinks in this game. Hiring crafters for your static, that's easily 200M. Buying enough materia took me 70-80M for the Savage tier. I also hired a designer to decorate my mansion once, that was like 100M or something. Buying FCs, that's 200M-999M for a mansion. Want to decorate? Walls can cost 10M-20M on the relevant patches. I can go on and on.

Obviously most casuals won't ever spend this amount of money but hey, just because you can't see a use for gil doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Raiding in particular is very expensive if you're hardcore. The materia and gear costs on day 1 per person can go up to 80M. I'd imagine it'd be cheaper in 6.2 and 6.4 since you'll have time to stock up on materia.

Or... Hear me out... You can level crafters yourself. I made my own food and gear for the tier at the start. No ones paying 200 mil for gear lol, and if they are, well, that's on them.


Anyone spending that much gil on a mansion is just validating scalpers.

And even then, you are talking about the minority of the minority. 99.9% of players have nothing to do with any of this

[Skiros]

Or... Hear me out... You can level crafters yourself. I made my own food and gear for the tier at the start. No ones paying 200 mil for gear lol, and if they are, well, that's on them.


Anyone spending that much gil on a mansion is just validating scalpers.

And even then, you are talking about the minority of the minority. 99.9% of players have nothing to do with any of this

You do not have time to craft if your static is alarm clocking. I'm talking about HC statics. 200M is also the standard for early delivery (2 hours after patch is live). You're commenting on something you know nothing about for some reason. I've actually worked for the world second team this tier so I know what is reasonable compensation.

[Colter_Hildibrand]

Ok...



/facepalm

"The people above who are all saying that gil is easy to obtain probably think 1M a day is some big number LOL"

There are still a lot of gil sinks in this game. Hiring crafters for your static, that's easily 200M. Buying enough materia took me 70-80M for the Savage tier. I also hired a designer to decorate my mansion once, that was like 100M or something. Buying FCs, that's 200M-999M for a mansion. Want to decorate? Walls can cost 10M-20M on the relevant patches. I can go on and on.

Obviously most casuals won't ever spend this amount of money but hey, just because you can't see a use for gil doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Raiding in particular is very expensive if you're hardcore. The materia and gear costs on day 1 per person can go up to 80M. I'd imagine it'd be cheaper in 6.2 and 6.4 since you'll have time to stock up on materia.

Man, you have so many things to spend gil on. It sounds really feminine the way you go through money

[CrayonsAndPaint]

The people above who are all saying that gil is easy to obtain probably think 1M a day is some big number LOL

Back in Heavensward/Stormblood you could make 600M in a week for Savage tiers.

Ironworks crafter set and Heavy Metal crafted set were going for like 1-3M per piece during content drought. Compare that to what we have now, the equivalent of which is 30k crafted rings.

So yeah, gil has gotten harder to obtain.

The people who are shaming you, OP, are probably not that good at making gil in the first place, don't worry.

I agree. Most of these people most likely think 2 million Gil in a day is a lot, when that’s actually really meaningless, lol. I don’t want to crap on people’s accomplishments but that’s really not an accomplishment. Back in heavensward patches, you could expect to earn 15+ million Gil per day and 100+million during a new patch with new raid gear.

It’s harder to earn Gil now because Crafting is too accessible, which is what Yoshida’s goal was from the beginning. The data center visit, world visit, accessibility, removing Gil from scrip turn ins, etc…was all to make Gil harder to earn. Did it make crafting more accessible? Yes. But it also made people who were rich from older patches even richer and much more rare to come by. Those players are now the top 1% of players. So it really only benefited those players in the end.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

I agree. Most of these people most likely think 2 million Gil in a day is a lot, when that’s actually really meaningless, lol. I don’t want to crap on people’s accomplishments but that’s really not an accomplishment. Back in heavensward patches, you could expect to earn 15+ million Gil per day and 100+million during a new patch with new raid gear.

It’s harder to earn Gil now because Crafting is too accessible, which is what Yoshida’s goal was from the beginning. The data center visit, world visit, accessibility, removing Gil from scrip turn ins, etc…was all to make Gil harder to earn. Did it make crafting more accessible? Yes. But it also made people who were rich from older patches even richer and much more rare to come by. Those players are now the top 1% of players. So it really only benefited those players in the end.

I disagree. Lower prices benefitted everyone.

The rich though now are just sitting in wealth that they will never use due to this while the average player can actually afford things without a ton of grinding or getting lucky drops.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I disagree. Lower prices benefitted everyone.

The rich though now are just sitting in wealth that they will never use due to this while the average player can actually afford things without a ton of grinding or getting lucky drops.

Pretty much this. The only people upset about things being cheaper are the ones who used to make massive profits lol

[CrayonsAndPaint]

Pretty much this. The only people upset about things being cheaper are the ones who used to make massive profits lol

To be fair, the only people upset about wealthy players are the ones who didn’t dedicate enough time to crafting and gathering back then. As far as I’m concerned, those rich players deserve it, and they deserve to be the top 1% of players who own a large amount of Gil for a reason.

[Liam_Harper]

I disagree. Lower prices benefitted everyone.

Pretty much this. The only people upset about things being cheaper are the ones who used to make massive profits lol

This is nonsense because the ones who used to make massive profits are insanely rich and don't care about gil.

The only thing the old omnicrafters dislike is that there's nothing to do now. Those months of leveling, gearing, farming and finally making items with your hard earned set at least kept you occupied. Having a big pile of gil isn't much incentive when there's little to do with it, but at least it was something.

What's sad is the casual crafter doesn't realize how it impacts the game in many negative ways.
The pros are it's easier to be self-sufficient and access items. That's a valid positive.
The cons are that botting is rampant now because the environment is perfect for it. You can run an hour of maps and buy a full 580 set, which invalidates Normal Raids and makes content the devs pour time into have a short lifespan. It also means crafting only lasts a few days into a patch and then dies. Look at the DoH section on the forums, there are threads from last year on the front page. Gil is much harder to make for all crafters too, most people didn't realize that in Stormblood even the basic white sets sold for 1-300k apiece and many materials sold for thousands apiece so just having a gatherer and no crafters was viable too. Being rich wasn't pro crafter exclusive, it just took some effort and rewarded you for it, casual or not. Leve gil didn't need to be nerfed, even collectibles gave gil.

I do agree some things should be accessible, for example raid Potions and Food shouldn't have been tied to Master Recipes. But the current system is an empty husk that reduces the amount of content ingame, the rich are rich and don't care and the normal player scrapes for pennies.

[Mika_Zahard]

The people above who are all saying that gil is easy to obtain probably think 1M a day is some big number LOL

Back in Heavensward/Stormblood you could make 600M in a week for Savage tiers.

Ironworks crafter set and Heavy Metal crafted set were going for like 1-3M per piece during content drought. Compare that to what we have now, the equivalent of which is 30k crafted rings.

So yeah, gil has gotten harder to obtain.

The people who are shaming you, OP, are probably not that good at making gil in the first place, don't worry.

Back then , not everyone and their mother were omnicrafters, due the sheer difficulty of leveling those jobs.

Now everyone has plenty of crafters, and due that, have crashed the prices hard.