FF14 and toxic positivity

[Ironthorne]

So you are suggesting OP is stating the obvious. So that would mean you agree about the toxic positivity then

Yes, it exists, and it's a bad thing. It's been called out on every single FF14-related platform, ad nauseum.
This is not as great a discovery as some people in this thread seem to think it is.
Calling attention to a well-known problem is just pure attention seeking. "Look at me, I'm not like other FF14 players!"

[TaleraRistain]

No context given, but there is a difference between "I don't like this because..." and advising people not to do certain content because it's "!@#$ing garbage" or "The game is total --- before HW!" If you come in shooting don't be surprised if people fire back.

Beat me to it, but exactly this. The phrase might be trite, but you're going to get more bees with honey instead of vinegar. You will get more people debating your point with you in good faith if you try to give some reasoning that they can use as a debate point. And that applies to both criticism and praise.

[StarkeRegulus]

Let me tell you something that someone told me and it has helped me a lot in life, it's simple and elegant: "You can't change people no matter how hard you try". This is even truer online with anonymity and a game that is played by kids that haven't developed critical conscience.

I am pushing 37 so I came from an era where people weren't "toxic", they were harsh, they wouldn't smile at your face to stab you in the back and they wouldn't tip toe around your feelings, you're feeling hurt about how kids were mean to you online? Block them or turn off the computer, logic, right?

I'd rather have that 100x than fake sympathy with zero actual empathy. This age of wokeness and tolerance has created the most intolerant entitled brats since this planet harbored human life and you're either on board or you get cancelled. I appreciate your magnanimous zeal but for the sake of your sanity, apathy is the way to go. Do you, and let the others do them, no matter how ignorant you think they are doing it.

-- “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

Let them appreciate the good times, strong men will be needed soon.

[Kolaina]

Snip

Prepare for some potential attacks. But good on you for saying it exactly how it is. More people need to stand up and be as genuine. I am of that same generation. I’ll say it how it is, it doesn’t sound pretty, but it’s honest. I’d rather someone say something I don’t like than to be dishonest with me and themselves

[StarkeRegulus]

Prepare for some potential attacks. But good on you for saying it exactly how it is. More people need to stand up and be as genuine. I am of that same generation. I’ll say it how it is, it doesn’t sound pretty, but it’s honest. I’d rather someone say something I don’t like than to be dishonest with me and themselves

*chuckle*

Don't worry, I'm not made of glass. (Honestly, probably won't even read the replies).

[TaleraRistain]

I am pushing 37 so I came from an era where people weren't "toxic", they were harsh, they wouldn't smile at your face to stab you in the back and they wouldn't tip toe around your feelings, you're feeling hurt about how kids were mean to you online? Block them or turn off the computer, logic, right? .

I'm 42 and I think it's possible to be straightforward and honest while still being civil and respectful of differing opinions.

[Hysterior]

[StarkeRegulus]

I'm 42 and I think it's possible to be straightforward and honest while still being civil and respectful of differing opinions.

Civil? Most absolutely. Handing out participation trophies so they won't get their feelings hurt? I can tell you that's not how I'm raising my kids and they don't seem to have a problem with daddy about it. Being competitive, constantly challenged and being told when I was wrong has made me a much better person than I would've been if people just nodded with a smile at everything I did.

I'm a game developer by profession and criticism was essential to improving our product.

[Krotoan]

Civil? Most absolutely. Handing out participation trophies so they won't get their feelings hurt? I can tell you that's not how I'm raising my kids and they don't seem to have a problem with daddy about it.

There is a pretty big case for the whole "participation trophy" thing being to placate parents who couldn't stand not having exceptional children and NOT being about the childrens feelings.

Lots of ways of coming at those stereotypes and "my generation is tough, yours is soft". Every generation thinks the ones after them are the worst ever and the ones before them are the dumbest ones ever. We all are products of the trials and struggles of our time.
I laugh when my mom can't figure out technology, she laughs at me when I struggle with basic housekeeping cause my robots broke down.

[StarkeRegulus]

There is a pretty big case for the whole "participation trophy" thing being to placate parents who couldn't stand not having exceptional children and NOT being about the childrens feelings.

Lots of ways of coming at those stereotypes and "my generation is tough, yours is soft". Every generation thinks the ones after them are the worst ever and the ones before them are the dumbest ones ever. We all are products of the trials and struggles of our time.
I laugh when my mom can't figure out technology, she laughs at me when I struggle with basic housekeeping cause my robots broke down.

I respect your premise but I wasn't making a comparison in that regard. Just reporting how my experience was and how I see it now. This can just be my personal experience and I'm overthinking it, don't pay me no mind.