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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultaniku View Post
    What floors me is when most everyone is pricing a more desired crafting material around similar prices, one or two gil off, and then someone comes along and lowers it by say 1000 gil or more.
    If it was actually desirable, a single person wouldn't be able to crash the price like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    If it was actually desirable, a single person wouldn't be able to crash the price like that.
    It isn’t usually just a single person. It’s that avalanche especially if everyone is watching their items like a hawk and tank the prices the second someone lowers their materials a good bit. The higher crafting leathers usually sell pretty well on my server and usually around 3-4K a piece. And they sell rather quickly, so when people see they’re selling they will lower the price a good bit and then it just turns into everyone lowering the prices. They sell well on their own. The price gouge isn’t necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultaniku View Post
    It isn’t usually just a single person. It’s that avalanche especially if everyone is watching their items like a hawk and tank the prices the second someone lowers their materials a good bit. The higher crafting leathers usually sell pretty well on my server and usually around 3-4K a piece. And they sell rather quickly, so when people see they’re selling they will lower the price a good bit and then it just turns into everyone lowering the prices. They sell well on their own. The price gouge isn’t necessary.
    Why do you think everyone is fine undercutting a single person who just dropped the price by a huge amount? That avalanche happens for a reason. Everyone wants to stay in that market. It doesn't matter if they "sell fast", the supply is still far greater. You might see 100 selling a day, but if 200 are being pushed onto the market not everyone can sell theirs. So players will be aggressive, take the price crash and relist frequently.

    The higher crafting leathers are worthless. Timed node mats are easy to gather and used for Spiritbond, so cheap. Tome mats have crashed in price. You just churn them out on a 4 button macro and even if you barely break even you get 12 materia for every 100. A large majority of players can spam these effortlessly. When items are worthless a price crash is inevitable.

    If the items were hard to make and desirable, this wouldn't happen. Let's say one person undercut by a huge amount and everyone followed. The buyers would leap at the chance to get rare and desirable items dirt cheap and clean the mb to stock up. Sir undercut would have ran out of items and they're hard to make so he can't list more right away. The price would return to normal.

    I don't know how players don't get this. "But my items used to sell well!" means nothing when the item in question is cheap junk tens of thousands of other people could make 100 of within an hour.
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