Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
I mean, I never stated that PUP will become a job in the game or that nothing else could ever be as good as PUP. I've just been trying to denounce the idea that "I don't like it, so it's not a good job concept." I don't think AST does true justice to the concept of Gambler or Time Mage and feel that either of those concepts could be composed in a unique and compelling way that could be distinct from AST. This all stemmed from the discussion about how much potential there was for future jobs, which I would argue there's still a wealth of, and stopping here based on potentiality alone would be a shame. What argument I do see as valid is the arguement of resources needed to continue to grow the roster of jobs. However, since XIV has yet to plateau and continues to grow in population and popularity, I would argue investing into more manpower to maintain the steady expansion of jobs would be a positive move.
I admit I don't like the job, but that is not really my basis for saying it is unlikely. Not every job in the game is going to be for me. I don't really like Reaper either but it at least makes sense within XIV's design sensibilities.

What I am seeing quite a lot is people who for some reason *love* a job concept so much that they try to denounce all the existing evidence for why that job is not a very good idea. They think a game with DRK and RDM (and SAM and GNB) still needs a Rune Fencer or Mystic Knight. They think a game with AST as implemented is somehow missing or still has design space for Gambler or Time Mage. They think a game that is abandoning pet jobs needs a non-limited Beastmaster or Puppetmaster. Most job proposals on these forums are profoundly myopic and wholly inconsiderate of the 9 year edifice which already exists to contextualize and limit design decisions.

So it doesn't really matter whether I personally think the PUP job fantasy is pretty thin and tawdry. I admit that my surprise is amplified by the fact that PUP is a hill anyone would die on over something newer and more inspired. But the surprise would still be there even if I thought PUP were at least a half-decent job concept like RUN or COR, because the design space has just been eaten away at this point, between the gradual elimination of pet jobs, the middling success of limited jobs, and the poaching of most of PUP's distinct job fantasy by MCH and RPR.