Final Fantasy XIV Hot Takes

[Raikai]

3 hot takes:

1) Limit Break is a boring and uninspired system for anyone but healers.

2) XIV still suffers from a bad interface design, even after all the improvements we got ever since ARR.

3) The idea behind soulstones just serves to make the lore unecessarily convoluted for roleplayers.

[Lium]

The forums suck and are overwhelmingly negative, no matter what. And it blows everything out of proportion. Everyone outside of the official forums on other platforms usually think the exact opposite of whatever is posted here.

The in-game community is growing a wee bit more less friendly as the population has grown.

[kpxmanifesto]

The forums suck and are overwhelmingly negative, no matter what. And it blows everything out of proportion. Everyone outside of the official forums on other platforms usually think the exact opposite of whatever is posted here.

The official forums is one of the few places where people can freely discuss the shortcomings of the game. Other platforms, like the FFXIV reddit page, will take measures to censor criticism. For example, if this thread were created on the FFXIV reddit page, it would be deleted pretty quickly.

[Teno]

The official forums is one of the few places where people can freely discuss the shortcomings of the game. Other platforms, like the FFXIV reddit page, will take measures to censor criticism. For example, if this thread were created on the FFXIV reddit page, it would be deleted pretty quickly.

Definitely, and while there is negativity people tend to take time to write detailed comments, something you'd rarely find on other forums for a game of similar scale. The FFXIV reddit is actually one of the few subreddits I dislike, between the bad memes, endless fan arts and very sparce discussions about the game itself.

[Denji]

The forums suck and are overwhelmingly negative, no matter what. And it blows everything out of proportion. Everyone outside of the official forums on other platforms usually think the exact opposite of whatever is posted here.

The in-game community is growing a wee bit more less friendly as the population has grown.

i've been here since 2013 as well and it was bad on the forums then, too.

i think reasonable attempts to moderate the more pointlessly cruel/racist/sexist/etc stuff is all that's needed although i do wish people would stop approaching everything like an argument or a fight to be won. every few posts i find myself responding to someone with "I already said I agreed with you, why are you making this into a fight" and they always back down and say "Oh I'm not fighting" or something but then mysteriously stop replying.

[Raikai]

The forums suck and are overwhelmingly negative, no matter what. And it blows everything out of proportion. Everyone outside of the official forums on other platforms usually think the exact opposite of whatever is posted here.

The in-game community is growing a wee bit more less friendly as the population has grown.

I think every official game forums is like that. I remember it was the same in WoW's and GW2.

A very common occurence is player X that thrashes about about every aspect of the game, and I usually think what greater power keeps this person subbed to a game that apparently have no joy playing?

[YukikoKurosawa]

Maybe this is random, but I think the writers are far too comfortable with cutscenes involving everyone in some sort of meeting where they just stand and talk. Having binged the MSQ, every time a character said "Alright time for another meeting" I groaned internally. I get it, it's easy to animate (and that may be the entire reason), just have every character in a room standing and using basic emotes occasionally. But god it's the most boring parts of the story. Not that character's in a room together having some dialogue is innately bad, it's to be expected, but good writers often use it as an opportunity to make something dramatic or critical happen, it's usually crucial the story and doesn't feel boring. Meetings in the MSQ are generally just people talking and going over what we already know anyway and could arguably be cut and nothing of value lost. On rare occassions something actually interesting happens but usually nothing does. I've never noticed this is any other story I've ever experienced. A significant portion of the MSQ is "characters standing in a room recapping what we already know".

Obviously characters need to occassionally get together to formulate plans and such but god the writers overrely on these types of scenes far too much.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

every few posts i find myself responding to someone with "I already said I agreed with you, why are you making this into a fight" and they always back down and say "Oh I'm not fighting" or something but then mysteriously stop replying.

LOL in my case; I agree with the Person, and they KEEP fighting with me

[Raikai]

Maybe this is random, but I think the writers are far too comfortable with cutscenes involving everyone in some sort of meeting where they just stand and talk. Having binged the MSQ, every time a character said "Alright time for another meeting" I groaned internally. I get it, it's easy to animate (and that may be the entire reason), just have every character in a room standing and using basic emotes occasionally. But god it's the most boring parts of the story. Not that character's in a room together having some dialogue is innately bad, it's to be expected, but good writers often use it as an opportunity to make something dramatic or critical happen, it's usually crucial the story and doesn't feel boring. Meetings in the MSQ are generally just people talking and going over what we already know anyway and could arguably be cut and nothing of value lost. On rare occassions something actually interesting happens but usually nothing does. I've never noticed this is any other story I've ever experienced. A significant portion of the MSQ is "characters standing in a room recapping what we already know".

Obviously characters need to occassionally get together to formulate plans and such but god the writers overrely on these types of scenes far too much.

It is slower... yeah. But I realized when I went back to wow for a short period of time when BfA released that I prefer this to the overworld dialogues where you feel way too distant from the NPCs :P.

[YukikoKurosawa]

It is slower... yeah. But I realized when I went back to wow for a short period of time when BfA released that I prefer this to the overworld dialogues where you feel way too distant from the NPCs :P.

That's not really the problem. It's that most of these meeting scenes are extremely dull and don't actually add anything. There's little to no actual character development, new information, or anything dramatic happening. It's an excuse to recap what everyone knows thus far, and formulate some sort of plan, which isn't innately a problem, but they happen so often in the story, and they're generally so dry that it gets tiresome. It's partly the way the story frames them that make them boring. They're extremely low energy, and the writers rarely make use of them to have something interesting happen. Like, I can predict exactly what's going to happen the vast majority of the time. It's just "lets have everyone go meet in a room, barely animate, recount what we've learned thus far, plan our next move" and absolute nothing else happens except in rare instances. I genuinely think it's partly a crutch for the animators to get away with not having to animate, because characters standing in a room talking is the easiest thing to do as an animator, especially since the character models already have a wide variety of pre-existing emotes they can just use, along with it just being plain easy to write.

It's just lazy storytelling. For example, I just read a scene in a novel I'm currently reading of characters in a room talking where a lot actually happened, it was filled with drama, plot twists, character development, and actually moved the story forward on top of all of that, in only 9 pages. It was an incredibly interesting chapter and I couldn't put it down until it was over. The problem with most meeting scenes in the MSQ is that nothing actually happens. Characters just stand, recount what we know already, and make new plans. It's the most dry writing imaginable. But were they to do a scene like I just described from the book I'm reading, it would be A LOT of animating. So ofc, it's easy to just plop characters in a room and have them just stand around and I suspect thats the main reason they do it. But god it is ever tiresome, but fortunately these kind of scenes aren't super commonplace, not since ARR anyway, which was almost entirely just that.