Maps being nerfed?

[Bacent]

It's almost never worth asking about something RNG related on an MMO forum. People will line up to say "RNG is RNG" like it's some bit of divine knowledge. They don't understand RNG can be broken, and even if it isn't broken pretty much all games put modifiers and weights on things so it's not really as random as people like to pretend.

Because it is. In single player games there's usually ways to cheese the RNG or boost your odds as you progress. This is an MMO game, meant to take a while to do many of the things in game. No way to boost your odds for that kind of stuff.

There's also RNG on top of RNG.

Say it's 75% chance to get through door one. Then a separate 65% chances to get through door 2. That's stacking the RNG on top of its self so the odds quickly get lower and lower as you go through. Odds stacking on top of one another quickly gives you VERY 'lottery winning' odds no matter how you look at it.

[Conundrum]

Because it is. In single player games there's usually ways to cheese the RNG or boost your odds as you progress. This is an MMO game, meant to take a while to do many of the things in game. No way to boost your odds for that kind of stuff.

There's also RNG on top of RNG.

Say it's 75% chance to get through door one. Then a separate 65% chances to get through door 2. That's stacking the RNG on top of its self so the odds quickly get lower and lower as you go through. Odds stacking on top of one another quickly gives you VERY 'lottery winning' odds no matter how you look at it.

I notice how you conveniently didn't address the part about weights and modifiers.

Retainer ventures are "random", but you're going to get a lot more Bom Bokos than Venture Crates or rare decorations or Glamour Items.

[Bacent]

I notice how you conveniently didn't address the part about weights and modifiers.

Retainer ventures are "random", but you're going to get a lot more Bom Bokos than Venture Crates or rare decorations or Glamour Items.

Love how you're trying to discredit what I'm saying just because I didn't address something. But fine. The rare items are always harder to get. In every single game. It's part of the grind in ANY game that makes you play just a bit longer if you have bad RNG/luck. There will always been junk in the item pools you'll always get an item 100% of the time to make it take longer. It's basically the same as getting nothing when you get something that common.

And you're all ignoring the fact that it's an MMO RPG. They're not meant to be sped through if you want to get all the stuff you actually want to get.

[Conundrum]

Love how you're trying to discredit what I'm saying just because I didn't address something. But fine. The rare items are always harder to get. In every single game. It's part of the grind in ANY game that makes you play just a bit longer if you have bad RNG/luck. There will always been junk in the item pools you'll always get an item 100% of the time to make it take longer. It's basically the same as getting nothing when you get something that common.

And you're all ignoring the fact that it's an MMO RPG. They're not meant to be sped through if you want to get all the stuff you actually want to get.

So RNG isn't just RNG, and can be tweaked at the whim of the devs. Thanks for agreeing with me.

[Poporito_Popoto]

So RNG isn't just RNG, and can be tweaked at the whim of the devs. Thanks for agreeing with me.

Can be, but won't. Deal.

P.S. I have had no issue with venture coffers. I get them regularly. But then, I have quite a few retainers.

[Saraide]

Because it is. In single player games there's usually ways to cheese the RNG or boost your odds as you progress. This is an MMO game, meant to take a while to do many of the things in game. No way to boost your odds for that kind of stuff.

There's also RNG on top of RNG.

Say it's 75% chance to get through door one. Then a separate 65% chances to get through door 2. That's stacking the RNG on top of its self so the odds quickly get lower and lower as you go through. Odds stacking on top of one another quickly gives you VERY 'lottery winning' odds no matter how you look at it.

Is it meant to take a while? If it was, why can you just get lucky and get a ton of stuff first try?

[MilkieTea]

Is it meant to take a while? If it was, why can you just get lucky and get a ton of stuff first try?

You said it yourself.

[Bacent]

Is it meant to take a while? If it was, why can you just get lucky and get a ton of stuff first try?

There's always people just getting plain lucky in everything that happens. Because luck isn't something you can factor in. It just happens.

[Saraide]

There's always people just getting plain lucky in everything that happens. Because luck isn't something you can factor in. It just happens.

You said it yourself.

So it's not intended to take long at all, it's just left up to luck instead. Glad we managed to clear that up.

[Bacent]

So it's not intended to take long at all, it's just left up to luck instead. Glad we managed to clear that up.

Man, you must be having fun in the Lochs with all that salt you have. There's always people that manage to get a new item rather quickly, but MANY more that it can take a loooong while to get.

If you get a rare item fast it's luck. If you get a rare item fast it also means you had great RNG. They're basically one in the same for getting it like that. Same for the total opposite end of the spectrum.

This is literally how many things are designed in all games to keep you playing longer. It's part of any game's grind no matter how many people complain that their personal experience is the only thing that matters when it comes to these drop rates.