Maps being nerfed?

[Skivvy]

On the topic of maps, I can't remember when, if ever, the most current timeworn maps were selling for practically peanuts. The EW and ShB maps have all seemingly tanked big time. Sucks for the lazy gatherers like myself as the older maps seem to take longer to farm. :P

[Equitable_Remedy]

Wake up, sheeple! #MapTruther

[TaleraRistain]

Yeah been running 90 maps with my crew and it's just the pits. We make it to end maybe once a session on 15-20 maps. Very rare to see drops except that mask. That drops all the time.

I just chalk it up to how the whole 50/50 door system sucks and hope we get the roulette version at some point. But I wouldn't be surprised to find out they designed it so there's separate RNG on each door and you can fail both or something.

[Tlamila]

You've just been unlucky, it happens.
Personal luck doesn't make up for statics much, alone.
If I was to put it based on my luck, I got portals most times in EW and very often 5th floor, while in ShB I rarely gor portals ever, so I could say they buffed them. But like they said it's rng.

As for maps not being worth much, it's because the current drops aren't worth much. The current glam was worthless right away as almost nobody likes it, and that's usually the main money-maker of maps. It will probably get better when they add new items. Also, map prices usually are high the first week or so and they were this time too. They're always pretty cheap when there's nothing new.

[GrizzlyTank]

If there is 50/50 chance to get to next room, then you have a 6.25% chance to get to the final room.

You would need to do about 10-11 portals for 50% chance to get the final room at those odds.
90% chance in 35-36 runs.

[Bacent]

If there is 50/50 chance to get to next room, then you have a 6.25% chance to get to the final room.

You would need to do about 10-11 portals for 50% chance to get the final room at those odds.
90% chance in 35-36 runs.

There's also the fact you're having another layer of RNG on if you actually get the portal or not. So you're technically having to roll for room one as well. Means the chances would be even lower than that.

If you added in the portal being room 1, with that math it means it'd be 72-73 attempts for the final room at around 90% chance and with the individual chance being 3.125%

Edit: This isn't even counting for gamblers fallacies with this, as well as each run being independent of one another. The math above is ONLY if it were truly 50/50 for getting the portal, then each door that you open.

The actual numbers for getting through each door we don't actually know, but they are most likely lower than the 50/50 chance being used here.

[Sarnai]

Love how you're trying to discredit what I'm saying just because I didn't address something. But fine. The rare items are always harder to get. In every single game. It's part of the grind in ANY game that makes you play just a bit longer if you have bad RNG/luck. There will always been junk in the item pools you'll always get an item 100% of the time to make it take longer. It's basically the same as getting nothing when you get something that common.

And you're all ignoring the fact that it's an MMO RPG. They're not meant to be sped through if you want to get all the stuff you actually want to get.

I got every "rare" item from current maps and got to 5th floor a couple of times (4 i believe)
Didn't make this thread with "omg i can't get stuff" in mind, more like I'm very surprised i get kicked out of 1st floor 4 times out of 5, when it never happened to me or my "map static" of 4 ppl before in in ShB. No salt, just surprise. Bad luck can't be happening to 4 ppl simultaneously, or we're really in it now i guess

[KageTokage]

If anything, the maps are probably too lucrative if the RMT farmers have been exploiting them as a source of income.

Toning down the gil rewards and increasing the amount of item drops to compensate might fix that, though...or they could just start actually banning them instead, because an entire party of level 80-90 bots takes a significant amount of time to set up.

[Saraide]

If anything, the maps are probably too lucrative if the RMT farmers have been exploiting them as a source of income.

Toning down the gil rewards and increasing the amount of item drops to compensate might fix that, though...or they could just start actually banning them instead, because an entire party of level 80-90 bots takes a significant amount of time to set up.

They'll just sell the item drops. SE needs to give the anti botting team more staff, otherwise the botting will never be effectively combatted.

[Liam_Harper]

If anything, the maps are probably too lucrative if the RMT farmers have been exploiting them as a source of income.

Toning down the gil rewards and increasing the amount of item drops to compensate might fix that, though...or they could just start actually banning them instead, because an entire party of level 80-90 bots takes a significant amount of time to set up.

All that does is make the item drops even more worthless due to a flood of supply. Most of the times I run maps, I end up vendoring a lot of the items anyway because it's just cheap crafting mats and bad materia. The "big" items like the cloth or orchestrions have dropped quite low in price, so increasing droprate would render them valueless.

They have to tackle the bots. No other way around it. Their options are let bots ruin maps, ruin maps to stop bots, or actually tackle the issue. So far they're just sticking their heads in the sand and leaving it at option 1, similar to crafting.