Bring back Aggro, resource management, bring back consequences!

[TheOperator3712]

I can think of a ton of things that could be done done to make the tank jobs more interesting, but at the end of the day, if your encounter design is boring then everything is boring. Tanks in FFXIV have potential. They could bring back aggro combos and ditch stances entirely. Throw in aggro decay and aggro resets. There are a ton of ways you can play around with making tanks care about the enmity gauge on the party list again. It won't making tanking interesting though if the encounter design remains the same. Encounter design is the single biggest issue in FFXIV's combat design.

[LittleImp]

I can think of a ton of things that could be done done to make the tank jobs more interesting, but at the end of the day, if your encounter design is boring then everything is boring. Tanks in FFXIV have potential. They could bring back aggro combos and ditch stances entirely.

Aggro combos impose limitations on job depth. It's like a less extreme version of the problem with healers; It's difficult to give them a proper rotation because they need to be able to potentially interrupt that 'rotation' at any time to heal without incurring major penalties, ergo they've always had the least amount of interesting options in terms of dealing damage. Tanks suffered from this to a lesser extent previously, and some jobs still haven't fully recovered from it.

Throw in aggro decay and aggro resets.

The game had these when "aggro management" was a thing, and they weren't very exciting in practice. You just ended up voke/shirking at a scripted time, or asking your party to save their aggro dumps for that scripted time. It was still just a matter of pressing a button at a timestamp, it didn't really add the kind of dynamism people in this thread seem to be after.

[TheOperator3712]

Hate Resets/Decays would be more annoying than being fun and innovative. Tanking is only boring if you do nothing than push buttons to clear a fight.

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Yes, because my point was clearly that we should implement those two specific things and not what I said shaped my comment around and stated immediately after that. /s

It won't making tanking interesting though if the encounter design remains the same. Encounter design is the single biggest issue in FFXIV's combat design.

Reading comprehension check failed. Please level up your reading skill and try again.

[LittleImp]

Yes, because my point was clearly that we should implement those two specific things and not what I said shaped my comment around and stated immediately after that. /s



Reading comprehension check failed. Please level up your reading skill and try again.

Why on earth are you so angry randomly? I just responded to some of the ideas you were talking about and you're acting like you're under personal attack.

To be fair, I don't know what I expected really. This is yet another thread mostly populated by weird players who don't even touch difficult content, but push for vaguely defined 'depth' to be added around systems they don't actually understand or even interact with regularly.

[TheOperator3712]

Why on earth are you so angry randomly? I just responded to some of the ideas you were talking about and you're acting like you're under personal attack.

To be fair, I don't know what I expected really. This is yet another thread mostly populated by weird players who don't even touch difficult content, but push for vaguely defined 'depth' to be added around systems they don't actually understand or even interact with regularly.

You took two ideas I listed as examples and proceeded to bash on them without mentioning my main point at all. In my experience that only happens when someone is taking something out of context to win internet points by beating up a scarecrow.