FFXIV Has the Population to Support an ELO system for Duty Finder / Party Finder

[Mirhd]

At some point people are just going to have to accept that FFXIV is not a "hardcore" MMO by nature and never will be. There is harder content for the (extremely small, whether certain voices like admitting to this or not) minority that want it, and that's enough. Trying to appeal to the smallest demographic (which is what ELO would do) is a surefire way of losing money, not to mention just a crappy thing to do in general. The attitudes displayed by some in this thread is an excellent example of "GCBTW", but not in the way those who constantly spew it think.

Ah, GCBTW. "If you don't want to play the officially sanctioned way just piss off."

In case you haven't noticed, my first post did indeed acknowledge that this is a deliberate desing decision and OP's idea really doesn't fit in this vision.

Oh, please. Telling someone (in as bland a way as possible) that they should seek out something they'll actually enjoy rather than, you know, saying the game they came to should completely change to suit them is ludicrous. You're not talking QoL or other (valid) criticisms here; you want a complete shift in design philosophy, regardless of your acknowledgement (toddlers? really?). You've been nothing but abrasive and dismissive regarding the valid arguments given as to why ELO here would be a terrible idea and are (hate to say it) a perfect example of the "toxic elitist."

I've done the "hard core" thing in other, older MMOs prior to making this my main MMO at the tail end of HW, have never stepped foot in Exs or Sav when current, yet still push my buttons as needed while minimizing gaining vul stacks. Do I screw up at times? Absolutely, and anyone claiming they never do is full of it. The older I get the less I care about executing a burst window flawlessly and more about spending my time doing something I find enjoyable rather than treating it as a job. If this makes me one of the "toddlers" in your rant because a run took 3 minutes longer, so be it.

While I can get annoyed sometimes during a run depending on this or that, I ultimately don't mind if things don't go perfectly as long as people are legit trying. I've had some dumpster fire runs in roulette that have stuck in my memory because of how entertaining they were, and I imagine many have experienced the same. I wouldn't trade that for anything.

[Theox]

I actually very much like the idea and in my ideal world we would have a system like this, but unfortunately it's just flawed and unrealistic in many ways so it's never going to be implemented.

[Kes13a]

Nowhere did I even say I was elite anywhere. Just wanting better skill matchups for parties.

by the way, is this NOT from your original post?

After some time, the player base is sorted out and Elitists and Toxic Casuals will never have to interact with each other again.

I can say with a fair degree of confidence you do not lump yourself in with the "Toxic Casuals"

so, yeah, I think you said you were elite....

[Thi]

by the way, is this NOT from your original post?



I can say with a fair degree of confidence you do not lump yourself in with the "Toxic Casuals"

so, yeah, I think you said you were elite....

I lump myself in the middle tier, nice try though.

[Roflcopter]

It doesn't matter, and to be honest I fully would expect to be placed in a middle tier. Which is fine by me if I get to play with people of similar skill level.

As for the parses, way to jump to conclusions on someone who's static hasn't started running yet and hasn't even attempted fight 3 yet because of time constraints.

I'm a casual who plays about 1-2 hours a day on average and still is pulling a blue without crafted pentamelds and started a week late on the tier.

I'm aiming for a purple parse next week and maybe a gold next week, it's called gradually improving.

Shouldn’t you be more concerned with improving in content that matters rather than worrying about the quality of random player you get in a 20 minute faceroll duty? Matched stuff isn’t exactly cutting edge content in the first place.

[Thi]

Shouldn’t you be more concerned with improving in content that matters rather than worrying about the quality of random player you get in a 20 minute faceroll duty?

I'm aiming for a purple parse next week and maybe a gold next week, it's called gradually improving.

Someone can't read I guess?

[Equitable_Remedy]

FFXIV Has the Population to Support an ELO system for Duty Finder / Party Finder

This is not the way.

[Mirhd]

This is not the way.

According to them: "This is the way."

... Whether you intended it or not, I've got "The Mandalorian" on the brain still, so...

[Nafreyu]

There is already friction between JP OCE and NA OCE on how to do Alliance raids, or interpret raid macros.

But your idea reads like Raider IO with chinese social credit score.

I don't support this idea.

[Azuri]

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Ah, of course. The "but I play for fun, it's not a job" argument. Newsflash - I also play for fun. My "fun" is not your "fun" though. And that's ok, we can find different things fun. I don't deny you your fun. But for some reason it's ok to dismiss mine completely.

Also, I have never demanded anything to be changed. You seem to be intent on ignoring the fact that I'm fine accepting the game for what it is. I even stated that such system goes against XIV design philosophy. Regardless if I agree with this philosophy or not (and I do not, as you have probably guessed). In the end, we are here to share pointless opinions that will likely never change anything anyway.

And in regards to savage participation, we have actual statistics showing 20-30% of the playerbase engages with savage on some level. If this is "extremely small minority" that doesn't deserve any consideration we would very quickly run out of things that are worth considering and have the game consisting of... 30-hour long MSQ movie once every couple of years? You know, some will probably like it.