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  1. #101
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    CyanTea's Avatar
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    Cyan Tea
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    You don't see listings, but it doesn't mean that if you make a PF yourself people won't join.
    Well, if you're an extrovert, making your own PF groups is certainly not a problem. And in the case of the (current) trials, you're not wrong - they will fill.
    But as I said, there's a portion of the community who would rather not interact with anyone. And as an introverted schizoid mental case - just joining groups is already, to put it lightly, stressful and bothersome enough.

    It does sound kind of selfish, considering how some of you view this genre of the game, but the time I have for the vidya I'd rather waste to have some fun and distract myself from real life, and not engage in activities that make me feel uncomfortable, so to speak. Granted, I think I myself exaggerating here quite a bit. Hehehe!
    I also assume players would just feel like I'm being disrespectful if I'm not communicating as the party leader.

    Regarding clearing the old raids, however, I believe there's simply no way any worthwhile groups would actually form unless they are unsynced or created by some famous "e-clown".
    I mean, it would probably take hours, after that you'll have yourself 30 minutes of wiping, then you'll never see the same players ever again.

    The aforementioned "statics" are of course an option as well, but for the part of the playerbase that shares the mindset similar to mine - for obvious reasons, they are out of the question as well.
    Not to mention, I have a fairly inconsistent play "schedule" to join one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    throwing even savage to the solo queue category would be super depressing. This game has way too many solo aspects already for an MMO.
    In the same manner how exactly those who would rather play with trusts will prevent you from making your own PF groups?
    Moreover, I struggle to think of what besides the main story and side-quests have "too many solo aspects". The endgame content in general is anything but solo-friendly.

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    Last edited by CyanTea; 02-05-2022 at 11:44 AM. Reason: Had to rephrase the entire post, I apologize. I think I've said everything I had to say on the matter, so to speak. I wish everyone the best.

  2. #102
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    ZelrothDenathrius's Avatar
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    Zelroth Denathrius
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    i super agree with you mate, that will be very appreciated.

    Leave people and sq tards say whatever they say
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  3. #103
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    nighttimebunny's Avatar
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    Winter Stardust
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I would love for them to add more solo content!
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  4. #104
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    Ciele Ma'lite
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I would like to see more hard content available to solo players, but I don't think creating a savage raid for solo is the answer to that. Especially not if the rewards will be comparable to the 8-man versions.

    For savage raids if one purely want the loot, the solution already exists for the most part through unrestricted party. You will have to wait maybe 2 expansions to be able to solo it but the possibility is there.

    I would very much like for some older raids to be very slightly adjusted though, to make them possible to solo at all. As it stands there are some duties that are, and will always be, impossible to solo due to certain fight mechanics, regardless of increases in stats and player power.
    One example is the nisi debuff from A4S. If you're a solo player in this raid you'll get both nisi debuffs and die instantly once you start attacking the 4th leg. A slight change of this debuff from inflicting 'death' to dealing say.. 9999k damage and making it possible to survive with a tank invulnerability ability would make it possible to solo, and have little impact on normal plays.
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  5. #105
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanTea View Post
    Perhaps I misunderstood you, but I was never of opinion that the content in this game stays indefinitely relevant, quite the opposite in fact. I even said this in my previews post. And I joined this game first and foremost because I enjoy this franchise.
    But at least you acknowledge the problem that needs to be fixed. And hence I think adding bots would be a good way to alleviate it (that is if developers had enough resources to do this). And without interfering with the player base (content cycle, to be honest) that decides what is relevant and what is not.
    If the player count doubling with in a few months period did not make this content become some what relevant for bit, bots won't make it relevant either.
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  6. #106
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Fantastic bait
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  7. #107
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Open party finder.

    Make group for raid for glam

    Grab a handful of people.

    Go get your glamour.
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  8. #108
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanTea View Post
    Yes. I've already stated that probability of adding "smart" bots in hard content is nigh impossible. But am I allowed to dream, eh? I want to dream. Still, I'm looking forward to a new Deep Dungeon and I hope "penny pinchers" at SE will someday decide to allocate more money to this game rather than its advertisement.
    Sure, you're allowed to dream! Lord knows there's features I'd love to see in various games that I know will never happen for practical reasons. I think it's just that the thread in general is presenting "the Trust system exists so it's easy to add bots to everything *facepalm*" arguments in a number of places, and so folks are approaching the discussion with intent to explain why it is not, in fact, so simple to implement.

    And even if it were technically feasible, it still means devoting development resources there rather than somewhere else. And if it came down to something like "do you want a way to run two of the twelve existing Alexander savage raids with an NPC trust, or do you want an entirely new Deep Dungeon covering levels 81-90" where I had to pick one or the other, I would absolutely vote in favor of a new Deep Dungeon instead.

    (Look, I like the Deep Dungeon content. Quite a lot.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  9. #109
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    Shuuli Vondael
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    I have been trying to clear P3S in PF for 3 weeks. And, not just progging, this is a "clear" where I have seen enrage and just want it to be done. I moved to EU from US and now im cursed with the time difference for a functioning static membership...

    I wish I could give you any advice besides, "just dun give up", but I can't.

    Every day I try, I tried with higher item level, any chest, trying to adapt to any strategies that other people want. Man I go to the moon and back if thats what you want me to do, to finally clear. But people just keep messing up the mechs...

    Then when we finally have the mechs, we have at least 2-3 DC and 1 person being angry about their barse so they leave... when we are sooo close.

    I should actually start recording my suffering and see what comes out of it, cause boi, oh boi I have seen some shit.
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  10. #110
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuuli View Post
    I have been trying to clear P3S in PF for 3 weeks. And, not just progging, this is a "clear" where I have seen enrage and just want it to be done. I moved to EU from US and now im cursed with the time difference for a functioning static membership...

    I wish I could give you any advice besides, "just dun give up", but I can't.

    Every day I try, I tried with higher item level, any chest, trying to adapt to any strategies that other people want. Man I go to the moon and back if thats what you want me to do, to finally clear. But people just keep messing up the mechs...

    Then when we finally have the mechs, we have at least 2-3 DC and 1 person being angry about their barse so they leave... when we are sooo close.

    I should actually start recording my suffering and see what comes out of it, cause boi, oh boi I have seen some shit.
    I’ve cleared p1s, p2s and p3s in Crystal PF. So I can sympathize. There’s a huge inconsistency issue when it comes to real players, I admit. And sometimes it’s basically rng who you get.
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