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  1. #331
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Doesn't help that the 'sexy dimorphism' trope where males are outright furries/monsters and females are "human with animal ears/horns" is also a very popular trope in anime and rpgs - Neko and Kemonomimi are in on itself a popular trope for japanese audience, afterall... a trope that is already quite saturated with Miqo'te and Au Ra, Viera just being the cherry on top.

    To show a few examples:







    The only exceptions to this rule seems to be when the men are meant to be just as beautiful and elegant as the women, once again, Miqo'te, Au Ra, and now Viera, so this whole men=beast is only played for the type of brute or big men....and where do Hrothgar fall in this, I wonder...? exactly

    That said, aside from maybe popularity, Hrothgals having a more humanoid face would likely be reduntant regarding the whole hat/hairstyle fiasco anyways. I mean, Viera are in the same boat, and they're literally just another 'human, but with-' race. If they're going to "fail" either way, might as well stay consistent and please the few people that do want to play an actual non-human character /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  2. #332
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Doesn't help that the 'sexy dimorphism' trope where males are outright furries/monsters and females are "human with animal ears/horns" is also a very popular trope in anime and rpgs - Neko and Kemonomimi are in on itself a popular trope for japanese audience, afterall... a trope that is already quite saturated with Miqo'te and Au Ra, Viera just being the cherry on top.

    To show a few examples:







    The only exceptions to this rule seems to be when the men are meant to be just as beautiful and elegant as the women, once again, Miqo'te, Au Ra, and now Viera, so this whole men=beast is only played for the type of brute or big men....and where do Hrothgar fall in this, I wonder...? exactly

    That said, aside from maybe popularity, Hrothgals having a more humanoid face would likely be reduntant regarding the whole hat/hairstyle fiasco anyways. I mean, Viera are in the same boat, and they're literally just another 'human, but with-' race. If they're going to "fail" either way, might as well stay consistent and please the few people that do want to play an actual non-human character /shrug

    ew is all I can say. Thats such an annoying trope D;
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  3. #333
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    ew is all I can say. Thats such an annoying trope D;
    It's one of the worst tropes in anime and gaming, and needs to be erased.
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  4. #334
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    Starshower's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's one of the worst tropes in anime and gaming, and needs to be erased.

    One of the biggest reasons I never wanted to play WoW was the sexual dismorphism, in there the females always look young, small and pretty, and the males look old, big and rugged... It's kinda insulting to me and turns me off, feels like it's designed for men by men. (aka other man can't be attractive)
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  5. #335
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Doesn't help that the 'sexy dimorphism' trope where males are outright furries/monsters and females are "human with animal ears/horns" is also a very popular trope in anime and rpgs - Neko and Kemonomimi are in on itself a popular trope for japanese audience, afterall... a trope that is already quite saturated with Miqo'te and Au Ra, Viera just being the cherry on top.

    To show a few examples:







    The only exceptions to this rule seems to be when the men are meant to be just as beautiful and elegant as the women, once again, Miqo'te, Au Ra, and now Viera, so this whole men=beast is only played for the type of brute or big men....and where do Hrothgar fall in this, I wonder...? exactly

    That said, aside from maybe popularity, Hrothgals having a more humanoid face would likely be reduntant regarding the whole hat/hairstyle fiasco anyways. I mean, Viera are in the same boat, and they're literally just another 'human, but with-' race. If they're going to "fail" either way, might as well stay consistent and please the few people that do want to play an actual non-human character /shrug
    as much as i hate this i know it's gonna happen. we do it in the west too (see: every cg animal people movie ever) but japan is really, REALLY bad for this. excruciatingly so.
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  6. #336
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starshower View Post
    the females always look young, small and pretty, and the males look old, big and rugged
    With exception (for men), I'd say you also just described 14. This game has a bit of a problem with Forever 15 female character creation.
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  8. #337
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    flipwizardmagoo's Avatar
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    I just want them to look similar to female Khajit. Beastial face, fur all over, and possibly beastial limbs if they wanna be generous.
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  9. #338
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by flipwizardmagoo View Post
    I just want them to look similar to female Khajit. Beastial face, fur all over, and possibly beastial limbs if they wanna be generous.
    Female Khajiit is the ideal face they should look to. One you can gaze upon and feel is beautiful, yet also immediately tell it's bestial.
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  10. #339
    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Caur Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Doesn't help that the 'sexy dimorphism' trope where males are outright furries/monsters and females are "human with animal ears/horns" is also a very popular trope in anime and rpgs - Neko and Kemonomimi are in on itself a popular trope for japanese audience, afterall... a trope that is already quite saturated with Miqo'te and Au Ra, Viera just being the cherry on top.

    To show a few examples:







    The only exceptions to this rule seems to be when the men are meant to be just as beautiful and elegant as the women, once again, Miqo'te, Au Ra, and now Viera, so this whole men=beast is only played for the type of brute or big men....and where do Hrothgar fall in this, I wonder...? exactly

    That said, aside from maybe popularity, Hrothgals having a more humanoid face would likely be reduntant regarding the whole hat/hairstyle fiasco anyways. I mean, Viera are in the same boat, and they're literally just another 'human, but with-' race. If they're going to "fail" either way, might as well stay consistent and please the few people that do want to play an actual non-human character /shrug
    I dunno, those examples are quite funny. It would be funny to see it 14 honestly.
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  11. #340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    I dunno, those examples are quite funny. It would be funny to see it 14 honestly.
    haha yeah let's design an entire playable race around a joke that would stop being funny after two minutes
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