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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm hoping this is the case at the worst, and at best they're reworking how the hair/hat system works for 7.0 so both races never have to wait again for their hats/hair.
    I really don't know about hats, hats has been pretty status quo. Hair on the other hand, is something they have made compromises for. I'd rather not wait until 7.0 for new hairs.. especially if they are going to be more shared hairs of questionable quality. I hope that isn't the case.
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    I honestly want to know in what world did they think having Viera and Hrothgar released as they did was a good idea. Did they really think people would be perfectly fine with the limitations? If so they were EXTREMELY misinformed. I get it's a lot of work to make a new race, let alone 2, but if they couldn't get it right I would rather they didn't do it at all until they could get it right. I honestly want female Hrothgar to work out but honestly, I do not trust them to do them right either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazariah View Post
    I honestly want to know in what world did they think having Viera and Hrothgar released as they did was a good idea. Did they really think people would be perfectly fine with the limitations? If so they were EXTREMELY misinformed. I get it's a lot of work to make a new race, let alone 2, but if they couldn't get it right I would rather they didn't do it at all until they could get it right. I honestly want female Hrothgar to work out but honestly, I do not trust them to do them right either.
    If male viera is anything to go by (which I've read people say don't have the same restrictions female viera had), female hrothgar may come a bit less limited, or at least more easily updated than male hrothgar. You'd think so at least. If they went back and added ears, you'd assume shared hairs that work on them would have ears as well. Who knows though, like I have said before, SE will have to earn my trust with these races.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazariah View Post
    I honestly want to know in what world did they think having Viera and Hrothgar released as they did was a good idea. Did they really think people would be perfectly fine with the limitations? If so they were EXTREMELY misinformed. I get it's a lot of work to make a new race, let alone 2, but if they couldn't get it right I would rather they didn't do it at all until they could get it right. I honestly want female Hrothgar to work out but honestly, I do not trust them to do them right either.
    The main benefit now seems to be that they have higher quality models and textures than other races, but with the 7.0 graphical update that's going to get flipped if they don't also update the Viera and Hrothgar models.
    I'm not looking forward to the probable 7.0 situation where Viera and Hrothgar both have lower quality models and textures than other races, and then also can't use any of the headgear SE releases.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 08-17-2022 at 02:27 AM.

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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    The main benefit now seems to be that they have higher quality models and textures than other races, but with the 7.0 graphical update that's going to get flipped if they don't also update the Viera and Hrothgar models.
    I'm not looking forward to the probable 7.0 situation where Viera and Hrothgar both have lower quality models and textures than other races, and then also can't any of the headgear SE releases.
    I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't give the Vieras and Hrothgars the graphical update, and claim it was due to them being the latest.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't give the Vieras and Hrothgars the graphical update, and claim it was due to them being the latest.
    I think they said the Graphics updates would be happening in waves. So that means they will see the Grafical update....
    but yeah who knows how soon or later they will see updates, or how these updates will be handled.
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    Itaru Shosuro
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    Hrothgars fellows !

    THIS
    IS
    OFFICIAL !



    Sources : Patch preview

    And there is a new hairstyle for Viera
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Hopefully they focus more on hairstyles than headgear. It is a shame the lack of hairstyles available for viera and hrothgar.
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    Xianthi Rongalla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Hopefully they focus more on hairstyles than headgear. It is a shame the lack of hairstyles available for viera and hrothgar.
    Even though I deeply want every single Modern Aesthetic to work THIS EXPANSION yknow I went into CC the other day and hrothgar only have 5 options. Their base face options, their base face options again but slightly different, and Emmanellain. Viera have 21 styles. That's so so SO depressing for anyone who buys the game specifically to play as a hrothgar. They need to let hrothgar actually use all their race-specific styles regardless of face type and then also add more universal styles so hrothgar character creation isnt so damn bleak, especially because hrothgar (and viera) do not have the luxury of enjoying a free trial and races you have pay2play as should be better. Much much muuuuuuuuuuuch better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    Even though I deeply want every single Modern Aesthetic to work THIS EXPANSION yknow I went into CC the other day and hrothgar only have 5 options. Their base face options, their base face options again but slightly different, and Emmanellain. Viera have 21 styles. That's so so SO depressing for anyone who buys the game specifically to play as a hrothgar. They need to let hrothgar actually use all their race-specific styles regardless of face type and then also add more universal styles so hrothgar character creation isnt so damn bleak, especially because hrothgar (and viera) do not have the luxury of enjoying a free trial and races you have pay2play as should be better. Much much muuuuuuuuuuuch better.
    The worst thing is that, as far as I know, they don't warn you about the limitations within the game.

    So imagine you coming to play this game in the free trial, liking hrothgar or viera and ending up buying the game to be able to play with them, not understanding much about why to have less hair in the options, but you were told that you enable more within the game, so you keep going, and when you get real, you realize you won't have your hair unlocked, let alone your hats. It's a frustrating situation, mainly because you have to either end ARR in order to change, or pay for it.

    For some people, waiting to change races, paying for an item in a monthly fee-based game, or creating a new character and starting all over again may mean nothing. But I guarantee that there are people who take character customization and appearance very seriously (myself included), that the dollar is not that cheap for the country's currency (myself included too), or that you won't want to start from zero because it sucks you want to reach a goal, and have to start over (I've already tried to create an alt about 5 times, but I always give up because I'm 90 levels away from getting everything unlocked).

    I turned Viera already knowing that the company sucks, but I can't stop thinking about those who didn't, since my friend created a Hrothgar and ended up frustrated (and I had already warned him about the restrictions, but he thought I was exaggerating)
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    Last edited by Adamantini; 08-16-2022 at 12:35 PM.

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