VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Adamantini]

This would most likely open a can of worms. First, admitting they aren't able to do things that even players do and secondly, you would have people asking for all sorts of mods to be officially implemented.

yeah, true. I hadn't thought of that

[Allegor]

If I'm not mistaken, I've heard that it's pretty common for Japanese people to not out right say "no" but instead go with a "maybe". Eventhough they would mean "no".
And if that's so I'm not surprised that for westerner not hearing a straight out "no" gives them hopes instead.

But we're not even given a 'maybe' most of the time, just...silence.

[Kolsykol]

It'd be nice if when female Hrothgar was released they were released with a big rework of Viera and Hrothgar that fixed the hats and hair issue.

[Jybril]

They've done nothing but handle the two races poorly since their launch.
You could kinda give them a pass because they even said it was stressful to do in SHB
but now we're in EW and they're still treated badly is my issue. Still going to laugh
when the Femroth's have like 2 faces and 2 hairstyles, maybe 3 if we count our blessings.

[Adamantini]

They've done nothing but handle the two races poorly since their launch.
You could kinda give them a pass because they even said it was stressful to do in SHB
but now we're in EW and they're still treated badly is my issue. Still going to laugh
when the Femroth's have like 2 faces and 2 hairstyles, maybe 3 if we count our blessings.

No problem. I have faith that in the next event, they will put another hair and hat on the rewards... of course both, viera and hrothgar, won't be able to use them

*insert here the clown meme*

[Akimori]

My theory is they're trying to make them attractive, but the problem is hroths are too furry and they want to humanize them, but then they remember us Catgirls already exist, so they don't know what to do. Can't make them too humanlike, because female Miqo'te already exist. Try making them look as furry as the males, and it makes them extremely difficult to make attractive. They should just do what others have suggested and make them look like female Pantera and call it a day (just with tails and human feet like the male Hroths ofc).

I really hope they dont go with this kind of face. Ugh...its like that meme of Male demons vs female demons where the males look more monstrous and actually like demons while the females just look like really sexy ladies with different colored skin and maybe some horns. Make the hrothgals have actual cat like faces so they can remain true to their male counter parts

Sexual dimorphism, yo...I hate it

I hardly see hroth players, but given the fact that they're basically big ass cats it's even more baffling that miqo's have something and they don't.

You know whats worse? Hrothgars were given a lot of mannerisms that you see in real felines, but they didn't give them the 2 things that really would have sold them...the iconic nose twitch that you see in cats and rabbits

and...the iconic "laying down like a cinnamon roll"

[SherlottaEryut]

I really hope they dont go with this kind of face. Ugh...its like that meme of Male demons vs female demons where the males look more monstrous and actually like demons while the females just look like really sexy ladies with different colored skin and maybe some horns. Make the hrothgals have actual cat like faces so they can remain true to their male counter parts

Sexual dimorphism, yo...I hate it

Agreed, I really am hoping for a more beast-like appearance for Female Hrothgar. We have too many stereotypically attractive races and considering this is the last piece of the puzzle to be implemented, they should be just as intimidating-looking as the male Hrothgar. This is a difficult topic, because majority of the FFXIV community tend to gravitate towards attractive looking characters, so it's hard to say if SE will just cater to those people.

[Rawr18]

Agreed, I really am hoping for a more beast-like appearance for Female Hrothgar. We have too many stereotypically attractive races and considering this is the last piece of the puzzle to be implemented, they should be just as intimidating-looking as the male Hrothgar. This is a difficult topic, because majority of the FFXIV community tend to gravitate towards attractive looking characters, so it's hard to say if SE will just cater to those people.

If anything, they'll probably just give them variations of cute "house cat" faces. Maybe one that looks like a lynx or something.

[Kolsykol]

I really can't think of an example where that meme even applies, I've seen people use it and then compare Female Viera to Male Hrothgar which makes no sense to anyone who actually plays the game and understands how stupid that is.
Whenever I see people bring it up they either don't play the game and are comparing two separate races or they're just mad because breasts exist.

My guess is that Female Hrothgar will simply be Male Hrothgar but slimmer.
That's how it is for every other race I fail to see why it would be any different.
If you want Female Hrothgar to actually read as Female to us as human beings then you've gotta use shape to do that which means that yes they will most likely be slimmer and have breasts ( Male Hrothgar are basically hairy human guys ).
I don't expect the face to be so fundamentally different than Male Hrothgar either.

Yukiko's example isn't from FFXIV and I doubt the Male equivelant if they exist in whatever game they're from actually looks different.
Something tells me they don't look like Male Hrothgar and that they look more similar to those Female whatever race they are.

Agreed, I really am hoping for a more beast-like appearance for Female Hrothgar. We have too many stereotypically attractive races and considering this is the last piece of the puzzle to be implemented, they should be just as intimidating-looking as the male Hrothgar. This is a difficult topic, because majority of the FFXIV community tend to gravitate towards attractive looking characters, so it's hard to say if SE will just cater to those people.

Ultimately I can't judge them for appealing to what most people want to see, but I personally have no real opinion on it either way.
If they're big like the Male Hrothgar then I won't play them but if they look more like in Yukiko's example ( but yes with a cat face ) then I'd actually be really interested.
Either way tho no matter what they do I am sure some people will be mad and complain about it and rant about how '' nobody wanted this '' lol.

[Akimori]

I really can't think of an example where that meme even applies, I've seen people use it and then compare Female Viera to Male Hrothgar which makes no sense to anyone who actually plays the game and understands how stupid that is.
Whenever I see people bring it up they either don't play the game and are comparing two separate races or they're just mad because breasts exist.

My guess is that Female Hrothgar will simply be Male Hrothgar but slimmer.
That's how it is for every other race I fail to see why it would be any different.
If you want Female Hrothgar to actually read as Female to us as human beings then you've gotta use shape to do that which means that yes they will most likely be slimmer and have breasts ( Male Hrothgar are basically hairy human guys ).
I don't expect the face to be so fundamentally different than Male Hrothgar either.

Yukiko's example isn't from FFXIV and I doubt the Male equivelant if they exist in whatever game they're from actually looks different.
Something tells me they don't look like Male Hrothgar and that they look more similar to those Female whatever race they are.



Ultimately I can't judge them for appealing to what most people want to see, but I personally have no real opinion on it either way.
If they're big like the Male Hrothgar then I won't play them but if they look more like in Yukiko's example ( but yes with a cat face ) then I'd actually be really interested.
Either way tho no matter what they do I am sure some people will be mad and complain about it and rant about how '' nobody wanted this '' lol.

Im having a bit of trouble understanding your post. People are mentioning that they're worried about the faces, but you bring up the Body. Its expected that they're going to have breasts and curves because they *ARE* females after all (Excluding female charr who are almost 1:1 replicas of their male counterparts, but Anet was still actually able to physically define them as female). What they're worried about is making hrothgals have more human like faces like the pantera in whatever game that is vs having actual cat/lion/tiger/whatever faces like their male counterparts

Giving them a cat nose and a ":3" is not what makes a cat's face. The defining trait of any animal really is their Muzzle/snout