Has anyone quit healing?

[Mortex]

I completely agree, but the unfortunate reality is that allowing players to drop a healer by not forcing a 2 healers comp via encounter mechanics would automatically enforce soloheal ex farm parties and possibly even soloheal savage parties, at least for the first 2 turns. And we both know that SE will never allow that since their stance on the matter seems to be "bad healers must be protected at all costs".

It’s not like good groups already only take 1 healer for the current raid tier in week 1. Same with tea and the other ultimates. Why can you do 1 heal for ultimates but bloody savage primals force sometimes mechanics for both healer. To be fair the only fight I think impossible too solo heal effectively without 6 or more deaths is WoL because he has like 2 mechanics we’re one can target the healer (meteor) and range lb always takes both healer so bad rng kills 4 peps.

[Mortex]

It’s not like good groups already only take 1 healer for the current raid tier in week 1. Same with tea and the other ultimates. Why can you do 1 heal for ultimates but bloody savage primals force sometimes mechanics for both healer. To be fair the only fight I think impossible too solo heal effectively without 6 or more deaths is WoL because he has like 2 mechanics we’re one can target the healer (meteor) and range lb always takes both healer so bad rng kills 4 peps.

Sry did mean week 2 and because I write from the phone I can edit that -.-

[Irenia]

It’s not like good groups already only take 1 healer for the current raid tier in week 1. Same with tea and the other ultimates. Why can you do 1 heal for ultimates but bloody savage primals force sometimes mechanics for both healer. To be fair the only fight I think impossible too solo heal effectively without 6 or more deaths is WoL because he has like 2 mechanics we’re one can target the healer (meteor) and range lb always takes both healer so bad rng kills 4 peps.

Probably because doing a 2 2 4 split for mechanics makes them easier. I haven't done ultimates, but I imagine it's "anybody can get whatever" so you have to prepare for that, as opposed to 2 2 4, where you only need to know stuff that is role relevant, and you can assume certain mechanics that have you with a partner are designed that it doesn't matter who your partner is.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Solo healing is very hard. I’ve done it in boja you literally cannot die or mess up mechanics and you are forced to heal so much it’s very hard and not meant for casual chill players.

[Ayche]

Lack of good downtime filler is fine if you have options. Like in SOLO I had a field day solo healing raids except for maybe 2 or 3 bosses where I needed a co heal. Downtime filler was boring (still better than here tbh) and healer dps was laughable but we had the option to let a healer go dps. WoW, SW:TOR etc. all did the same.
But really low healing requirements in casual content AND boring downtime filler AND fixed party comps is too much. At least one of that needs to go. Permanently.

CBU3's commitment to Raid Finder is pretty solid. And as long as actions are tied to level and not the activity in question, healers will not require ultimate-level healing in dungeons so most of the healer kit will continue go unused there.
There is only one thing left then of the three.

[Nizzi]

Well, here we are in 2022 in 6.0, and I'm quitting healing too.
The monotony of spamming 1 button endlessly has gotten worse, and while 1.5s cast times are a welcome change, it has eliminated any variance or thinking that I had to do in ShB to slightly break that up with utilizing the limited weave windows I had on SCH. I really don't see much meaningfully changing for healers, at least not much to be continually invested in asking for changes while offering thoughts and engaging in discussion about it. More and more, it seems like discussing the myriad number of healer issues is just an exercise in futility and SE is more than happy to blissfully ignore them as all of the other merits of the game keep it worth playing.

Despite being the "most balanced role" and "the easiest and most accessible", all of the healers are incredibly exclusionary in how you can enjoy them due to their lack of anything enjoyable about their downtime; in normal mode content, you essentially have to rely on your party running into AoEs and mechanics like chickens with their heads cut off to force you to potentially stop spamming 1-1-1; and so you're told by people online or in-game "Well, that's because it's NORMAL content. You need to do Extreme and up to use all of your healing kit, that's where the game is tuned!" and then you find out that the two available extremes can be cleared without healers, and so it shifts to "Well, Extreme is always pretty easy anyways. You have to do Savage, but Week 1 Savage when people aren't geared/don't know the strats, etc." and it is continually shrinking for what content exactly these bloated and meaningless healing kits are meant for and designed around if the current content is being cleared without them. The fun of healing on healers shouldn't come from 1 week at the start of each tier, or before everyone is able to start outgearing the fight and healing isn't needed as much.

A vast majority of the content in this game is normal mode content where you do practically nothing but spam your 1 key. For players like me who don't have the time anymore to dedicate to raiding or progging, I'm locked out of getting to have fun with the vast majority of encounters once players know how to do them. The level 83 trial was fun the first week of EW when people didn't understand the mechanics and we were spamming heals through the stacks to try and survive. If I get it now in the roulette; most people know what's going on and I'm left to my devices of spamming Broil IV and refreshing Biolysis. This is the situation for every job within this role. If I pick up DNC and don't like how it plays, I can try out MCH or BRD, or a melee job or a caster - it's cool if a job isn't for you within a role, just try something else! If I want to be a healer but I'm not happy with Broil spam, I'm told to go shove it. You take that Glare/Broil/Malefic/Dosis spam and you love it, or you're just a selfish person who doesn't actually want to heal, you just want fast queues!

It's ironic that we call hitting 1-1-1-1-1 for most of a fight our "downtime" when it's really more like "all the time," and with that small amount of time I have to play this game weekly, I don't see a reason to continue on in a role this poorly designed across all of jobs within it. I'm unsubbed at the moment so I felt like I needed to at least post another measure of disapproval into the void that is this forum that is unread and unloved by the developers before my privileges expire.

See you all in 7.0 if your 1 keys manage to last that long!

[MiaShino]

If I want to be a healer but I'm not happy with Broil spam, I'm told to go shove it. You take that Glare/Broil/Malefic/Dosis spam and you love it, or you're just a selfish person who doesn't actually want to heal, you just want fast queues!

This statement tis most amusing to me when said by others because it encapsulates huuuuge problem with playing support in any game.

Fast queue? Fast queue!? Have those spouting this kinda nonsense ever been on receiving end of the kind of vitriol that is spewed at healers when you do "fail to heal"?

Have you ever dragged one entire alliance kicking and screaming across the Dun Scaith finish line only to receive no commendations, not even thank you? This lala has. I gave it all she's got captain and healed as much as my little astro self could in there until the ogcds were gone. I raised and healed myself dry. Three fricken healer LBs in one raid. Three! Almost four! Diabolos was nearly vanquished whilst there I stood one of five people still amongst the living, spamming Malefic at 100 hp until it was over...

Fast queues.. pfffffffffff

Yes for role that is not required at best and unwanted by rest of party at worst. A role where we get to spend forty five minutes pondering why we are unable to heal stoopid or with team literal god pressing 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1.

Wonder how many of the others were sitting in their chairs screaming "Where were the eeeels!" during that run of Dun Scaith, while I worked my booty off holding that mess together?

Watched streamer Violent Destruction playing on launch week for Endwalker wait 50 fricken minutes for two healers. Gee willikers, I wonder why? It may say tank in need but we know, we know it is not.

Ohhh right! Answering this old thread because why the heck not, nope! Have not abandoned healing and neither have friends but I do heal much much less then once did. Once I finally make it into the Endwalker stuffs I will be healing there too but cannot help wondering, is this only because I love playing support so much?

[Teno]

I love healing and so do many others. It’s the lack of a complex rotation that allows you to improve and focus on learning fights etc. I used to scratch my brain out doing smn rotation while avoiding mechanics. Maybe healing just isn’t for you, maybe it’s meant for the simple players[see simple Rick] and not for you who want more aka dps.

SR is a player who finds joy out of more than just the thrill of the challenge/superiority of being better
[rick and morty Refrence but you get it]

You can't say healing is made for the simple players although it is the case at the moment. Because one, it didn't use to be like that, and second, you're currently playing half the game by diluting healer gameplay in favor of boss gameplay. If you can't figure out a dps rotation while doing mechanics it's your fault, not the game's. Healer gameplay shouldn't be dumbed down as a result.

And even then, very simple solutions to healer gameplay have been made that would be both fun and not even hard.

[Recon1o6]

heads up folks, if you're unhappy with healing, I've asked a healer question on page 9 of the live letter thread, get it upvoted and if the stars align we might get an answer

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...tions%21/page9

[RinaShinomiya]

This statement tis most amusing to me when said by others because it encapsulates huuuuge problem with playing support in any game.

Fast queue? Fast queue!? Have those spouting this kinda nonsense ever been on receiving end of the kind of vitriol that is spewed at healers when you do "fail to heal"?

Have you ever dragged one entire alliance kicking and screaming across the Dun Scaith finish line only to receive no commendations, not even thank you? This lala has. I gave it all she's got captain and healed as much as my little astro self could in there until the ogcds were gone. I raised and healed myself dry. Three fricken healer LBs in one raid. Three! Almost four! Diabolos was nearly vanquished whilst there I stood one of five people still amongst the living, spamming Malefic at 100 hp until it was over...

Fast queues.. pfffffffffff

Yes for role that is not required at best and unwanted by rest of party at worst. A role where we get to spend forty five minutes pondering why we are unable to heal stoopid or with team literal god pressing 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1.

Wonder how many of the others were sitting in their chairs screaming "Where were the eeeels!" during that run of Dun Scaith, while I worked my booty off holding that mess together?

Watched streamer Violent Destruction playing on launch week for Endwalker wait 50 fricken minutes for two healers. Gee willikers, I wonder why? It may say tank in need but we know, we know it is not.

Ohhh right! Answering this old thread because why the heck not, nope! Have not abandoned healing and neither have friends but I do heal much much less then once did. Once I finally make it into the Endwalker stuffs I will be healing there too but cannot help wondering, is this only because I love playing support so much?

Got that "fast ques" accusation thrown at me recently too when i summarized Healer problems under a r/FFXIV tweet. The funny part is that i literally have like 100 WHM weapons sitting in my Glam coffer and its filled with Healer exclusive glam, mained WHM for the entirety of ShB and now SGE for ENW and the stuff i talked about are issues you might not even realize as a "DPS player who wants fast ques" but yeah i just want fast ques, right.

And even if you were a "DPS player who wants fast ques" why the frick would you play a healer? The most boring jobs in terms of DPS. Tanks at least have a rotation and with how overtuned their HP sustain is you don't even have to rely on a healer paying attention anymore.