New SMN is a mind-numbingly boring one-button job

[dinnertime]

People can't be serious about the DoTs...
Not only did they lessen SMN's DoT-based abilities over-time, they also made it VERY convenient to apply.

Heavensward:
-Tri-Disaster applies ALL of SMN's DoTs in one press of a button.

Stormblood:
-There's now only 2 main DoTs to apply
-Those 2 DoTs now have even timers, and timers increased to 30s.
-Dreadwyrm Trance refreshes Tri-Disaster
-Contagion is now a magic vulnerability debuff (and now we have a less tedious way to extend DoTs)
-Shadow Flare is instant-cast
-Miasma II was removed

Shadowbringers:
-Firebird Trance/ Demi-Phoenix refreshes Tri-Disaster (so now you hard-cast DoTs every what? 1-2 mins?)
-Shadow Flare was removed

There's absolutely little reason for people to be complaining about DoTs being annoying to apply and track during Stormblood days. Even a casual like me can do that no problem.

[zcrash970]

People can't be serious about the DoTs...
Not only did they lessen SMN's DoT-based abilities over-time, they also made it VERY convenient to apply.

Heavensward:
-Tri-Disaster applies ALL of SMN's DoTs in one press of a button.

Stormblood:
-There's now only 2 main DoTs to apply
-Those 2 DoTs now have even timers, and timers increased to 30s.
-Dreadwyrm Trance refreshes Tri-Disaster
-Contagion is now a magic vulnerability debuff (and now we have a less tedious way to extend DoTs)
-Shadow Flare is instant-cast
-Miasma II was removed

Shadowbringers
-Firebird Trance/ Demi-Phoenix refreshes Tri-Disaster (so now you hard-cast DoTs every what? 1-2 mins?)
-Shadow Flare was removed

There's absolutely little reason for people to be complaining about DoTs being annoying to apply and track during Stormblood days. Even a casual like me can do that no problem.

Never doubt the FFXIV community to not be lazy and bad players

[Sequora]

People can't be serious about the DoTs...
Not only did they lessen SMN's DoT-based abilities over-time, they also made it VERY convenient to apply.

Heavensward:
-Tri-Disaster applies ALL of SMN's DoTs in one press of a button.

Stormblood:
-There's now only 2 main DoTs to apply
-Those 2 DoTs now have even timers, and timers increased to 30s.
-Dreadwyrm Trance refreshes Tri-Disaster
-Contagion is now a magic vulnerability debuff (and now we have a less tedious way to extend DoTs)
-Shadow Flare is instant-cast
-Miasma II was removed

Shadowbringers:
-Firebird Trance/ Demi-Phoenix refreshes Tri-Disaster (so now you hard-cast DoTs every what? 1-2 mins?)
-Shadow Flare was removed

There's absolutely little reason for people to be complaining about DoTs being annoying to apply and track during Stormblood days. Even a casual like me can do that no problem.

For me it was the poisons not the DoTs that were the problem. It had always felt like an odd choice for summoner’s main spells to be bio and miasma. There was zero connection to the primals.

I get that summoners come from arcanist, but even arcanist using poisons doesn’t even really fit. This is SE’s description of arcanist:

“Adepts of the art of arcanum derive their might from symbols of power born of geometric techniques hailing from across the southern seas. Held within occult grimoires, these symbols lend shape to the arcanist's aether, thereby allowing him to produce myriad powerful spells. Using the selfsame symbols to unlock the latent power contained within gemstones, arcanists are also able to summon forth the familiar known as Carbuncle to carry out their bidding.“

Poison doesn’t exactly scream powerful spell to me lol.

[Aikaal]

For me it was the poisons not the DoTs that were the problem. It had always felt like an odd choice for summoner’s main spells to be bio and miasma. There was zero connection to the primals.

I get that summoners come from arcanist, but even arcanist using poisons doesn’t even really fit. This is SE’s description of arcanist:

“Adepts of the art of arcanum derive their might from symbols of power born of geometric techniques hailing from across the southern seas. Held within occult grimoires, these symbols lend shape to the arcanist's aether, thereby allowing him to produce myriad powerful spells. Using the selfsame symbols to unlock the latent power contained within gemstones, arcanists are also able to summon forth the familiar known as Carbuncle to carry out their bidding.“

Poison doesn’t exactly scream powerful spell to me lol.

2.0 Garuda's signature pet ability was called Contagion lol

[dinnertime]

For me it was the poisons not the DoTs that were the problem. It had always felt like an odd choice for summoner’s main spells to be bio and miasma. There was zero connection to the primals.

Well that's an entirely different topic. I don't like it thematically either. They *could've* kept it, either change it to be more thematic or stay as is, I wouldn't care.

It really did not hurt the job's theme after Stormblood because by then, like I said, the DoT-based abilities were pruned out and we got to see more focus on Summoning via preparing and managing for Demi-Bahamut. Your DoTs? You press one or two buttons to apply, Fester/Bane and forget for 30s. That's it.

People can complain all they want about how DoTs didn't fit thematically, but if people do complain about DoTs in gameplay where it's *apparently* hard to manage, then I would not think very highly with your skill and opinions.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Well that's an entirely different topic. I don't like it thematically either. They *could've* kept it, either change it to be more thematic or stay as is, I wouldn't care.

It really did not hurt the job's theme after Stormblood because by then, like I said, the DoT-based abilities were pruned out and we got to see more focus on Summoning via preparing and managing for Demi-Bahamut. Your DoTs? You press one or two buttons to apply, Fester/Bane and forget for 30s. That's it.

People can complain all they want about how DoTs didn't fit thematically, but if people do complain about DoTs in gameplay where it's *apparently* hard to manage, then I would not think very highly with your skill and opinions.

Agreed dots was mostly just there in SB and ShB. The only time I had fun "managing dots" was dueing my short time in TEA. Managing my dots on living liquid and Its hand to keep up full-up time on them was pretty fun but outside that one fight dots was very easy.