Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
I think it's fine if people didn't like how it turned out for Zodiark, but I also think it is still a proper use of subversion, especially with how they tied the end with the past action of Zodiark's final user, Fandaniel.

In terms of placing it before the Loporrit arc, it may be jarring to some, but I personally think it's a welcome break from what came before and what will come after.
In my experience subversion has typically been used with a somewhat positive connotation but it can be both sure. I think someone had a fairly good analogy with the GoT season 8 thing. Was it a subversion? Sure. Was it anything objectively good? Not at all lol. I think there’s a point where too much subversion is bad and i think that’s a lot of what hurt Endwalker imo. As far as the loporrits go, i would 100% agree with you if it wasn’t for that fact we had numerous breaks even during the apocalypse itself. Lunch dates,coffee dates, 1 on 1 time dates, burger dates etc etc. It felt absolutely jarring to go from defeating what was the first of the two main deities of this entire game’s storyline(10 years worth) to just 10 minutes later go and play carrot collector, dress up etc. It just really downplayed the events for me and made me question what genre of the game i’m playing. Am i playing an rpg or a slice of life anime with haha’s everywhere.