What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Garet]

I'm not sure it needs to be said but just in case.

GoT is an unfinished book. What the TV series did finalized the series of its own accord. I believe George R.R. Martin is even on record stating the direction they took is not the one he intended.

It's probably better that way anyways. The books are really good reads if anyone fancies themselves a fantasy/politics fanatic. An ending like that in novel format would really disappoint a lot of people.

Yea the show went downhill once they diverged from the book. They just did not have the creativity to plot a course forward on their own without the books guiding them. Partly the fault of R.R Martin for being so slow to finish the remaining books haha

[ApolloGenX]

Scantily clad? You referring to Venat? She is fully robed up until the end lol. If fully robed women are scantily clad for you wonder what women in bikinis or sport bra is? Naked? lolz. Guess seeing as the other ancients are wearing the same robes as Venat that we should also call emet and hythlo scantily clad too

No, lol. Venat was interesting.... I am talking about "Nothing to Hydaelyn" For some reason when Venat powers up, her clothes fly off and she's in a bustier/unitard.

[Stachiko]

Yea the show went downhill once they diverged from the book. They just did not have the creativity to plot a course forward on their own without the books guiding them. Partly the fault of R.R Martin for being so slow to finish the remaining books haha

I will gladly let him take all the time he needs. The books are some of the best I've ever read. Great politics and all within a fantasy setting.

Am i playing an rpg or a slice of life anime with haha’s everywhere.

I meant to comment on this as well.

Most (J)RPGs are anime-centric, correct? In that sense, it was only natural FFXIV went down this route. Though, it really does sting being someone who's not entirely all too fond of anime.

[Garet]

No, lol. Venat was interesting.... I am talking about "Nothing to Hydaelyn"

Hydaelyn isn't scantily clad either.... But I guess I can understand how some people can view it as such I actually wished they made her look more real and alive than a statue-like figure that can move. The only time she felt really real was when they showed her tear up at the end which was really emotional and awesome.

[Garet]

I will gladly let him take all the time he needs. The books are some of the best I've ever read. Great politics and all within a fantasy setting....
......Most (J)RPGs are anime-centric, correct? In that sense, it was only natural FFXIV went down this route. Though, it really does sting being someone who's not entirely all too fond of anime.

Most of us would have preferred for the show to have waited buuut at the same time understand why the show cannot. Otherwise the actors/actresses might be too old before they could continue and would need to re-cast or the genre would no longer be as popular like how super heroes are the in-thing now aside from contractual obligations etc. So yea it could not be helped unfortunately.

A lot of fans and even the shows producers actually asked R.R Martin to speed up a bit or at least give the studio a draft of his ideas for the upcoming books to serve as a guidepost for the show. But he did not want to which is understandable because it would spoil the story of his books as well.

And yes FFXIV is very anime heavy hence a lot of western players did not immediately lean towards it especially when there are mmorpg like WoW which is more western style. Pro and cons for each mmo.

[Lauront]

I will gladly let him take all the time he needs. The books are some of the best I've ever read. Great politics and all within a fantasy setting.




I meant to comment on this as well.

Most (J)RPGs are anime-centric, correct? In that sense, it was only natural FFXIV went down this route. Though, it really does sting being someone who's not entirely all too fond of anime.

I realise you're using "most", but they can vary much like anime itself can (e.g. you can get pretty sombre anime like Ergo Proxy, or ones where slice of life moments pale by comparison to the grittier aspects of the show, e.g. AoT.) So it's very much a case of which JRPG, or even which FF, one has in mind. XIV is a theme park so it has a bit of everything but I do think there's been a gradual increase of slice of life creeping into the MSQ.

Has anyone who submitted the Elpis moon as a bug? It being rejected won't mean anything but if it's accepted as a bug, then we know for sure whether it was intentional.

Also I'm looking for interviews in regards to the Endwalker story if anyone has them. I can't remember which one Yoshi P was talking about the changes in Endwalker but if anyone who collects them has them I would be grateful.

These are the ones of which I am aware - there was a flurry of video ones in the lead up to it, but in terms of written ones:

Lead up:

https://www.akhmorning.com/news/fami...aki-takayanagi

Post-release:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._on_endwalker/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._70_coming_in/

I've seen some people state that the translations are not perfect for those even if adequate.

There's meant to be more releasing soon.

This one is pretty good even if it relates to SHB: https://www.akhmorning.com/news/fami...ingers-part-12

[KizuyaKatogami]

I will gladly let him take all the time he needs. The books are some of the best I've ever read. Great politics and all within a fantasy setting.




I meant to comment on this as well.

Most (J)RPGs are anime-centric, correct? In that sense, it was only natural FFXIV went down this route. Though, it really does sting being someone who's not entirely all too fond of anime.

Oh for sure, i understand it’s anime-centric and i’m not saying yknow, it shouldn’t have things like that, but it’s all about when and where you present those scenes. If for example scenes like that we’re shown explicitly before the final days or after i don’t think many people would argue too much against it. The fact though they occur right after we’ve just witnessed a mass group of people turn into blasphemies, countless people being murdered etc etc, and then we go off to have some romance/friendship time, it just really ruins to mood for me. Like, i feel like HW had the perfect blend of things like that. You’d get the estinien teasing alphinaud here and there, but it wasn’t ruining the mood all too much, it still kept its grim and dark nature. The final days just felt severely underplayed for how much they’ve been hyped up and i think it affected the story a lot especially when people do comparisons of the ancients final days to ours and the concept of suffering etc.

[Jandor]

Initially I was kind of disappointed that the final days was mostly limited to two zones, but I suppose it makes sense if you think about it, we were pretty much intended from the outset to be able to weather them better than the Ancients were. It'd kinda defeat the point if it had slapped us around as hard as it slapped the Ancients.

[Theodric]

The Sundered weren't equipped to handle the Final Days better than the Ancients, the story is simply written to always disallow the protagonists to actually stand to lose anything of note no matter what threat they are dealing with at any given time.

Much like how, despite the Warrior of Light travelling to the First, conveniently none of his enemies made a move to successfully sow chaos and destruction back on the Source.

The Final Days also only emerged in certain places in both the Unsundered and Sundered world. It was a gradual process. That it only emerged in a handful of regions on that basis has nothing to do with the Sundered being 'better equipped'. Zodiark was also keeping the Final Days at bay up until his defeat - which isn't anything tied to the Sundered, themselves.

[ApolloGenX]

The Sundered weren't equipped to handle the Final Days better than the Ancients, the story is simply written to always disallow the protagonists to actually stand to lose anything of note no matter what threat they are dealing with at any given time.

Much like how, despite the Warrior of Light travelling to the First, conveniently none of his enemies made a move to successfully sow chaos and destruction back on the Source.

The Final Days also only emerged in certain places in both the Unsundered and Sundered world. It was a gradual process. That it only emerged in a handful of regions on that basis has nothing to do with the Sundered being 'better equipped'. Zodiark was also keeping the Final Days at bay up until his defeat - which isn't anything tied to the Sundered, themselves.

But the sundered were smart enough to go back in time, I guess? .... I guess the Ancients didn't ask questions.... because plot?