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  1. #101
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by niko1415 View Post
    Snip.
    All I can say is practice practice practice.

    I don't even heal anymore and I keep track of all of the things you listed and still maintain a nearly perfect rotation (At least for the classes I don't suck with), I'm not saying this to brag, just saying this because over time you develop a sense for these things and become more easily able to take in all the information at a snapshot.

    With time monitoring health bars and debuffs will become second nature and you can confirm the status of the party with a single glance at your party and around you.

    Also, don't forget that you can always cancel your casts and go into a heal, or that you have ogcd healing abilities you can use instead. I can't confirm for WHM or AST but you can spam aoe skills while still targeting the tank as a SCH. Heck even keeping your DOT skill on the boss 100% of the time will come a long way.

    I also recommend positioning yourself medium range behind the boss so that your AOE heals can reach the tank, all melee dps, and the ranged and caster dps that prefer to hang back a little because of their range.

    Lastly, don't get intimidated by dpsing, it's just one button that you can use without restriction and easily cancel if healing is needed, dps and tanks have dozens of buttons, and each bit of extra dps you're adding makes the boss or trash mobs die faster and in the case of dungeons, let the tank save more cooldowns.
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    Last edited by Dogempire; 08-08-2019 at 10:02 AM.

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  2. #102
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    Sora Belle
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    This post is gold
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    "This is what lights the darkness. A chance to make everyone happy!"
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  3. #103
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    OP's post is too on the nose to be 100% genuine but

    To get a more 'pure' healer role they could
    a) reduce the healer role in 24s to 1 per group : having 1 tank, six dps and 1 healer or
    b) open the 24 mans to have one group of 24 with 3 healers healing the whole thing.
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  4. #104
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    OP's post is too on the nose to be 100% genuine but

    To get a more 'pure' healer role they could
    a) reduce the healer role in 24s to 1 per group : having 1 tank, six dps and 1 healer or
    b) open the 24 mans to have one group of 24 with 3 healers healing the whole thing.

    Some alliance raids are bad enough when 1 of your 2 healers disconnects...
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  5. #105
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Some alliance raids are bad enough when 1 of your 2 healers disconnects...
    I didn't say it would be pretty >.<
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    We should focus our raid performance on not overhealing and ensuring that we are able to keep our comrades alive throughout encounters. In doing so, we are bolstering community performance and promoting the dev team's ideals of pure healing. I believe this will increase communication and cohesion of the three roles.
    we already optimize overhealing though so we can dps more and if i didnt dps why would i optimize over healing?
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  7. #107
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    Carmine Altair
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    We should focus our raid performance on not overhealing and ensuring that we are able to keep our comrades alive throughout encounters.
    How do you do this without doing nothing or doing DPS?

    And if you are, basically, saying that if your strong heals heal too much so you don't need to heal so you should use weaker heals soi you can heal more... that's just silly.

    Obviously, a joke thread but I don't care. lmao, This thread is going to cause more issues than anything.
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    Last edited by Rivxkobe; 08-13-2019 at 02:46 AM.
    Level 80: SAM | SCH | PLD | DNC

    Leveling: AST | WAR | MCH

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    healers healing the whole thing.
    For what it's worth, I wish some spells affected everyone, not just our own party. Sacred Soil, Asylum and Collective Unconscious, to name a few. They already can't stack, what difference would it make if it affected 16 more people.
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  9. #109
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    Mizzy Wisver
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    Sargatanas
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    My Take On This

    Although this is 3 years old it's still relevant, yes Healers should Dps, but also when attention calls for it they will need to focus healing like in emergencies etc.
    After all if you need the Healer to beat Enrage, then the Dps from others is lacking.
    Say I'm wrong?
    Because many of these hardcore raiders would also agree on that.
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  10. #110
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTonyBerry View Post
    Although this is 3 years old it's still relevant, yes Healers should Dps, but also when attention calls for it they will need to focus healing like in emergencies etc.
    After all if you need the Healer to beat Enrage, then the Dps from others is lacking.
    Say I'm wrong?
    Because many of these hardcore raiders would also agree on that.

    The amount of Necromancy you put into this bad thread leads me to believe we're getting it as a healer.
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    Petition Thread for "Playable Loporrits": https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436512-Make-them-Playable-You-Cowards
    Are You Happy with the Endwalker Healer Reveal? - Poll: https://strawpoll.vote/polls/2e6mxhnx/vote - Thread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/443437-Poll-Are-You-Happy-with-the-Healer-Kit-Reveal-for-Endwalker

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