An NPC you truly hate with passion

[nighttimebunny]

Lyse probably

[HyoMinPark]

Oh, this thread.


I would like to make an update to mine, actually:

Can't post a picture since I'm on my phone right now, but...

Estinien.

I’d change it now to a few others. Estinien is a bit more palatable in EW — though he’s still way down at the bottom of the list for my favorite characters.


Top has to go to Zenos. Mostly because he just did…nothing since being revived after 4.0. He was fine at the end of 4.0. I actually thought he was pretty decent in his one-dimensionality and singularly-driven mindset. But then they brought him back and he hasn’t done anything but lust after fighting us for the last 4 years. There’s just zero intrigue to his character, and his role could have been fulfilled by Fandaniel just fine (actually, it kind of was, since Fandaniel became Zodiark while Zenos just Surprised Pikachu at what I saw coming a mile away). I will admit his ending in EW was fitting. Minus the forced fight, his words afterward gave him a decent end. Now, if we can just leave him there instead of bringing him back a third time, that’d be greeeeat….


But I’m also not really a fan of Lyse. Character background being retconned aside, the Stormblood writers just really failed her as a character—and unlike some others, I feel like she didn’t really get a proper “redemption”. Minfilia was far at the bottom of my list, but what bit of her they showed in 5.0 sort of redeemed her for me: giving Ryne the option to choose her path going forward was a really nice touch, while also staying true to the character she was always portrayed as. Lyse I feel was…almost done dirty in a way? I have that thought every time I play through SB.

She wasn’t given any sort of real resistance to her ideals and idealistic nature after we returned from Doma—there was a quite a bit of that in The Peaks and Ala Ghanna, but nothing really afterwards. She spent way too much time kind of in the background while we were in Doma/Othard. Her being thrust into a leadership role wasn’t really… questioned or anything. She didn’t seem to face any real “challenges” being thrown into that position, or a learning curve of any kind. She honestly didn’t show the qualities fitting for it. I think Hien did a better job in one half-scene he was barely in by comparison—when he told Yugiri that he will do what his people want: if they want him to fight, he’ll give them his sword; if they don’t want to fight, he’ll surrender his head to the enemy. I don’t know. I think the writers just didn’t do the best job with Lyse.


Also not a huge fan of Y’shtola. She has way too much plot armor, and it doesn’t really feel like she…does much? I feel like she got to have a bit more significance in ShB (a little bit, but not much since she was practically absent for most of HW and SB); but she’s a Scion that could honestly step out of the picture and we’d be fine to continue on. Also just tired of her fake deaths every expansion.

There’s a few Scions that I think could step out of the picture now—but that’s another topic for another time.

[NanaWiloh]

No character in this game annoys me as much as Hope in FF13 did. No character is more deserving of being slapped so hard their face stays red for a month then him. He is the king of annoying useless characters. Put ashai, aplhy,lyse and minfilia togather you get HOPE!!!

[RobynDaBank]

No character in this game annoys me as much as Hope in FF13 did. No character is more deserving of being slapped so hard their face stays red for a month then him. He is the king of annoying useless characters. Put ashai, aplhy,lyse and minfilia togather you get HOPE!!!

Didn't expect to see this here lol; Hope annoyed me in FF13 too. Like, okay, it's extremely sad that you had to watch your mom literally die in front of you, but at some point his hate for Snow felt forced. No clue why Lightning got along so well with him - what were they bonding over? Their collective hate for Snow (why did Lightning dislike Snow again?)? Both being emotionally hollow? I enjoyed FF13 and its sequels a bunch, but some characters are just... off. Vanille and Sazh were more fun to watch.

Hope's entire performance in the first game ruined him in future games for me as well. Was any of his hidden talent for nerd things ever shown in 13? Academia all being his baby was out of nowhere a bunch.

[Chie_M]

Every single Loporrit. I hated those stupid things and I hope they don't make a reappearance.

[Absimiliard]

Can I just choose every lalafell and loporrit in the game and call it a day?
If not, I suppose I'd have to pick Tataru above all of them. I'd gladly fly her all the way to Ultima Thule just to fire her out an airlock just to be rid of her for good.

[Tlamila]

It's hard to pick cause there are a lot, but the most important mentions:
Alisaie on top, since you can't escape her;
every character in the Hildibrand quests, him included;
every character in the ninja job quests.

[Soma_Farkreath]

cant stand lolorito

[Yuella]

Emet-Selch. The only major villain in the game that has no sympathetic reason behind his actions. Losing Hythlodaeus (and others who sacrificed themselves to summon Zodiark) is not a good enough reason to wanting to bring rejoinings (and killing millions in the process) because they volunteered.

[Tlamila]

Emet-Selch. The only major villain in the game that has no sympathetic reason behind his actions. Losing Hythlodaeus (and others who sacrificed themselves to summon Zodiark) is not a good enough reason to wanting to bring rejoinings (and killing millions in the process) because they volunteered.

Oh right, how did I forget to mention him?
And what makes it worse for me is that 99% of the playerbase doesn't consider him a villain at all and swoons all over him.