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  1. #261
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    Weetzlo's Avatar
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    Weetzlo Mexica
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    Well, they heard us, we gut 520 more potency added to our abilities! I wonder if that was enough, though.
    560 per minute since you can use Expiacion every 30 seconds. On paper and in statics, GNB/DRK still gonna be ahead by nature of having a tighter burst to fit into pots/raidbuffs, but in PF content where you're out here with a SAM, BLM, MCH, DNC, WHM, and SGE it's probably gonna be competitive.
    (1)

  2. #262
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    Insane? Buffs are trash, doesn't fix the overall problem. Should be scaling against Drk/Gnb as they're currently the top, Paladin still lacks burst power, and still de-syncs too quickly, plus Atonement got left.

    Job needs a lot of help fixing it's overall rotation issue, by the time Blades are up, rip raid buffs they gone.
    They mentioned this would be the potency adjustments patch. Expecting anything more than a potency adjustment is, I'm sorry, completely stupid.
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  3. #263
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    Character
    Nova' Dragon
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 92
    If they adjusted Blades slightly, and gave the Atonements a massive boost over Reqs+Holy, it would fix one of the issues.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  4. #264
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Character
    Cassius Rex
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I like the buffs, but I'm pretty sure this did nothing to rid us of that cursed -16s FoF opener.
    (2)

  5. #265
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    Hammerhorn's Avatar
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    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    From the testing I’ve done seems the buffs are a step in the right direction. Your mileage may very but seems like about a 250 DPS buff overall. All these people losing their minds over “look at how much of a increase PLD is getting” really have no clue. These skills take a long time to come back around and PLD was coming from a huge disadvantage. Overall this is about 150,000 more Damage over the coarse of a 10min fight. PLD and WAR will be fighting over last place.
    Undeadfire has made many good points there’s still a lot that can be done. I hope in 6.1 PLD and WAR both get another small boost in the damage department so that the gap between all tank DPS would be around 2-3%. Also hopefully DRK gets a rework. GNB is in a good spot the only thing I would change on them is that Continuation becomes ranged shots... you know like they have a gun, would solve movement issues.
    I’m glad we got something for PLD though it’s gonna help I don’t think we have achieved tank balance yet though and in the tank forums I think that’s what we should be truly aiming for. Ideally you should be able to grab any combination of two tanks and get numbers that are 2-3% away from each other, I don’t know if that’s even a goal of the Devs but that’s what I would like to see.
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    Last edited by Hammerhorn; 01-26-2022 at 05:11 AM.

  6. #266
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    Hammerhorn's Avatar
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    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I will say this too, I enjoy the cursed opener. I do like that we have to work harder to produce I’m ok with that.To me it feels better with more gravity on pull.
    (0)

  7. #267
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    Ryaduera's Avatar
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    Character
    Ryaduera Tengille
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Weetzlo View Post
    560 per minute since you can use Expiacion every 30 seconds. On paper and in statics, GNB/DRK still gonna be ahead by nature of having a tighter burst to fit into pots/raidbuffs, but in PF content where you're out here with a SAM, BLM, MCH, DNC, WHM, and SGE it's probably gonna be competitive.
    To clarify, I was just stating overall added potency, not how much is in the rotation, but you are correct, yeah.
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    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

  8. #268
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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Character
    Nova' Dragon
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhorn View Post
    From the testing I’ve done seems the buffs are a step in the right direction. Your mileage may very but seems like about a 250 DPS buff overall. All these people losing their minds over “look at how much of a increase PLD is getting” really have no clue. These skills take a long time to come back around and PLD was coming from a huge disadvantage. Overall this is about 150,000 more Damage over the coarse of a 10min fight. PLD and WAR will be fighting over last place.
    Undeadfire has made many good points there’s still a lot that can be done. I hope in 6.1 PLD and WAR both get another small boost in the damage department so that the gap between all tank DPS would be around 2-3%. Also hopefully DRK gets a rework. GNB is in a good spot the only thing I would change on them is that Continuation becomes ranged shots... you know like they have a gun, would solve movement issues.
    I’m glad we got something for PLD though it’s gonna help I don’t think we have achieved tank balance yet though and in the tank forums I think that’s what we should be truly aiming for. Ideally you should be able to grab any combination of two tanks and get numbers that are 2-3% away from each other, I don’t know if that’s even a goal of the Devs but that’s what I would like to see.
    DRK deserves a Re-work no doubt.

    GNB needs a 6y range on Gnashing Claw/Continuation combos.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  9. #269
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    FateRu's Avatar
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    Character
    Fate Ruler
    World
    Titan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 61
    Patch 6.08 has been applied and PLD has been strengthened.
    However, as before, PLD is still the weakest tank.
    To change this, we need to make some adjustments to further increase the PLD's DPS.
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  10. #270
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    Character
    Lis Caramel
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 80

    Why....i dont understand

    Why the nerf to paly tanks? Can square-enix explain that? Now we are a new stress to healers....try to maintain tank palys alive....really i dont understand
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