The Alliance roulette is unbearable

[Syaoran_Black]

This is mainly the reason I very rarely queue for Alliance Roulette anymore as getting either any of the Crystal Tower raids are just....so....boring; another that comes to mind would be Void Ark in the HW alliance raids, and while I am sure some enjoy Void Ark - it gets old fast; though despite it being able to be completed fast (as someone will say) and is at least level 60, it is so mind-numbing in my opinion right next to the Crystal Tower raids.

The two after Void Ark are some of my personal favorites from HW and would like to see them more often in Alliance Roulette alongside ones from Stormblood and Shadowbringers. Heck, getting Copied Factory and even Puppet's Bunker is awesome from time-to-time.

To wrap things up: it goes without saying that some people prefer the alliance raids that require zero brain power, yet somehow still wipe, but even still, if I see another rogue, pugilist, or another class without their job stone on (or clothes off, then go to full HP upon re-equipping) that caused me to get Crystal Tower - I will look down on you, menacingly.

[Iscah]

Misuse of bugs
"Misuse of bugs" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault/error in Final Fantasy XIV or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.

This is the big one. While it's true that the game "allows" you to rig your ilevel to affect the roulette, I think it's pretty logical that it wasn't the intended reason for the design. It's intended to stop you from getting thrown into Orbonne when you just hit 70 and you're still in weak gear. Not because you deliberately manipulated it and the system either doesn't or can't check what your real available ilevel is.

Which is a fair argument. However, if SE really felt like it was an issue, they would have addressed it by now just like they did with the MSQ not being able to skip cutscenes.

That depends whether they can change it or whether the system is just too deeply embedded and they don't want to acknowledge that (I speculate) rules they created to sort people into roulettes several expansions ago can't be changed even though they aren't really working correctly now.

MSQ roulette is a different issue entirely, and their solution used things that already exist in the game. Locking down player movement with an unskippable cutscene is a thing that already existed for the treasure dungeons. Auto-scrolling text was already an option. They just put them together and applied them in the dungeon.

[Quintessa]

Which is a fair argument. However, if SE really felt like it was an issue, they would have addressed it by now just like they did with the MSQ not being able to skip cutscenes. Since this has been around for so long, it's not an unreasonable assumption that it's ok to continue to do. They haven't even came out with their soft handed "We know people do this, we please ask that you don't" type of response.

Looking at this from a different angle, I feel as though they haven't made changes because they can't. It appears that Ilevels are checked when the DF window pops and it's locked in at that point because the dungeon you'll enter has already been decided for you. You need to be naked before queuing.

[Menriq]

Looking at this from a different angle, I feel as though they haven't made changes because they can't. It appears that Ilevels are checked when the DF window pops and it's locked in at that point because the dungeon you'll enter has already been decided for you. You need to be naked before queuing.

This is incorrect. Everything is snapshotted when you queue up, which is why you can get adventurer in need bonuses if you queue up for them even if they aren't the same role needed when the queue actually pops.

[Hunky]

Regardless of Doozer's suggestion to report people for it... no, no you're not missing health because you were on a crafter. Why? Because your health gets automatically set to max when you zone into the dungeon, the only reason for you to suddenly miss health before the barrier even opens is because you switched gear pieces.

Is this really true?

Recently, I queued up for alliance raid while I was at ilevel 530. I had on a full set of level 80 gear (including accessories). I didn't lower my ilevel at all. I still landed in Crystal Tower though.

But what I noticed is that even though I was at max HP (since I was just waiting for the queue to pop), my HP wasn't max when I finally got into the raid. It only took a few seconds for it to restore.

I noticed the same for a few other players in the party. I also noticed that some party members didn't have this happen to them.

What exactly causes this? Now I'm a little nervous because I don't want to get mistakenly reported.

[Rinhi]

certain party comps give you a slight health boost

[Hunky]

This is incorrect. Everything is snapshotted when you queue up, which is why you can get adventurer in need bonuses if you queue up for them even if they aren't the same role needed when the queue actually pops.

Yeah, this has happened to me before several times. I would queue up as a healer while either dps or tank was in need, and I would still receive the rewards at the end.

I just assumed that if the needed role changes any time during the raid, then the rewards would go to those playing that role.

To be honest, even after playing this game for 7 or 8 years, I still don't fully get how ilevel sync and stat sync and all of that works.

[Kolaina]

The ToS can be very vague and open to interpretation. Not by you, not by me, but by the developers and the GMs.

Kay.. we will start with this line

■Prohibited Behavior in Final Fantasy XIV
In Final Fantasy XIV, obstructive behavior that has an adverse impact on other users' gameplay, or operation of service, is prohibited. Such behavior violates the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement and Square Enix Account Terms of Use.

Your effecting other players gameplay by breaking a system and forcing a random event into a non-random event.

I've only ever seen this part of the ToS used in instances such as; refusing to participate in a duty, refusing to heal somebody, I can also see it being used when someone wears a glamour piece as a piece of gear in a duty causing it to become impossible to perform adequately or survive a raid-wide.
Not getting the duty you prefer is not obstructing behaviour. Nothing here is stopping you from playing the game or completing an instance.

■Nuisance behavior
"Nuisance behavior" is speech or behavior that hurts others or obstructs their gameplay, but which is not classified as harassment. Even if it was not intended, a penalty may be issued if the end result was that another person was hurt, or their gameplay was obstructed. If the behavior was observed being conducted by multiple players, all involved members will be issued a penalty.

Your effecting people who are directly queueing into duties by draining all the resources in roulette away from their proper uses, which is suppose to be random to fill the people in need.

Nuisance behaviour can be seen as intentionally dropping AoEs or other mechanics on to other people or baiting certain mechanics towards a person, effectively preventing them from casting for example. Even rescuing for the sake of "LOL"s. Leashing a boss out of arena so it resets before the arena is locked.

Again, you not getting the duty you want is not "nuisance behaviour". It is also not affecting the people directly queueing into a higher duty because the game will take other people from the pool that meet the standards and match them with that person. You have no way of proving that one queue is being caused to pop before another.

◆Obstruction of play
"Obstruction of play" refers to all behavior in general that obstructs another person's gameplay. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play.

・Obstructing the activities of others
Refers to any kind of obstructive behavior that prevents the activities of another player.

Once again blocking people from joining others in a random roulette by forcing the outcome into another one.

Just see above.

Misuse of bugs
"Misuse of bugs" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault/error in Final Fantasy XIV or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.

Or you know the biggest one you guys love to ignore, your using this bug to choose what duty your getting from a process that's suppose to be random..

It literally says using a function as it wasn't intended for personal gain.. scrolling threw all these posts you guys all claim it's fastest for most rewards.. so your abusing a bug for personal gain of faster rewards.

Who's to say this is a bug and not working as intended? Duties simply require an iLVL. There is no "exploitation of a fault/error". The function is just simply to match people to fill slots in a duty. It does not say in every possible duty. Again, you are interpreting the ToS in a certain way. There is not word on the specifics of it. Just because you don't get what you want doesn't mean the rules are being broken.

[Hunky]

certain party comps give you a slight health boost

Thanks for clearing that up! I really need to teach myself more about this. I've been playing the game for so long, and I had no idea this was a thing.

[YukikoKurosawa]

I think the only reasonable solution would be to significantly increase the rewards from the later Alliance raids. I don't really know what else you could do. It COULD have the effect of making people who are lvl 80+ dropping if they don't get Nier, but it would be balanced out by the amount of people that are forced to do lower level raids because they aren't high enough level to do Nier. It wouldn't be as bad as MSQ roulette where people drop when they get Castrum over Praetorium.