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  1. #241
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    Atma's Avatar
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    Shiari Eventide
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Or you explain how I only ever get the level 80 alliance raids
    My explanation for that is "I don't believe you even get Nier raids 3/10, let alone 10/10, and if somehow you actually did or are, you should go buy a freaking powerball ticket."

    There you go.
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  2. #242
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atma View Post
    My explanation for that is "I don't believe you even get Nier raids 3/10, let alone 10/10, and if somehow you actually did or are, you should go buy a freaking powerball ticket."

    There you go.
    I don’t think myself lucky to get nier. It’s time consuming and the players… the amount of times I have to plead with a tank to turn Hansel or Gretl so I can assize just to get clapped back at. At least with CT I could be in and out for the same reward.
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  3. #243
    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    For me it’s nier 10/10 which isn’t fun either. People here over estimate the impact queue manipulators have
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Neither is doing Copied Factory with complete monkeys who sniff glue between auto-attacks (if you are lucky you might even see an ability) and actively populate Aliinace Raid roulette.
    that's just as bad, but at least I have most of my abilities in the nier raids to actually play the damn game
    and CT raids being braindead doesn't mean that the very same glue sniffers are pressing the 2 buttons they have in it, either
    I've had more wipes in the 3 CT raids than in the nier raids, I've had multiple runs in the span of a week in WoD, where the shadowlurkers spawned, an enemy that appears twice on google image
    that's a playerbase and enabling issue, where people willingly defend lazy players up until lvl 90 and beyond because expecting anyone to press buttons after playing this game for literal thousands of hours is toxic

    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    Because I get the same rewards irregardless of my time, so I'd take the quicker option. Let's say at your job
    it's a video game I'm playing to have fun, not a job I do for rewards
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  4. #244
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    I've had more wipes in the 3 CT raids than in the nier raids
    Even with this, CT would still be completed faster for the same reward. That’s an issue
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  5. #245
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Neither is doing Copied Factory with complete monkeys who sniff glue between auto-attacks (if you are lucky you might even see an ability) and actively populate Aliinace Raid roulette.
    You knew what you signed up for the second you entered a ROULETTE.

    Again, people don't have issues getting CT if somebody is queueing up for Relic grinds or MSQ. We're all fine with that, somebody actually needs it. But if somebody is purposefully ilvl cheesing, we have a problem.
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  6. #246
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Some of you all just seem to have real bad luck with roulettes, I never seem to have these kinds of problems even when I don't get CT. But yes, I am getting real tired of running CT, I may just stop doing Alliance roulette all together, it's easy enough to cap out tomes for the week without it.
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  7. #247
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    it's a video game I'm playing to have fun, not a job I do for rewards
    Exactly, and I don't find doing something for an hour to be fun when I can get the exact same outcome in 15 minutes.
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  8. #248
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Some of you all just seem to have real bad luck with roulettes, I never seem to have these kinds of problems even when I don't get CT. But yes, I am getting real tired of running CT, I may just stop doing Alliance roulette all together, it's easy enough to cap out tomes for the week without it.
    I'm actually about to stop myself, simply because I'm about to have everything at 90. Not worth running AR for tomes when you're just going to be bored and fall asleep in CT raids. It's a shame a lot of these ilvl cheesing players are so terrified of challenge.

    And before anybody gets on my case about how "they're not challenging, just annoying because of pugs messing things up", I want to remind you that EVERY Savage is only difficult when people don't know what they're doing (the challenge is getting people to not screw up). When people know what they're doing, the savage raids are rather simple, just like every other content in the game.
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  9. #249
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's a shame a lot of these ilvl cheesing players are so terrified of challenge.

    And before anybody gets on my case about how "they're not challenging, just annoying because of pugs messing things up", I want to remind you that EVERY Savage is only difficult when people don't know what they're doing (the challenge is getting people to not screw up). When people know what they're doing, the savage raids are rather simple, just like every other content in the game.
    Or, perhaps it's not about it being challenging or not, but rather the time spent for the exact same reward.
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  10. #250
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    Quintessa's Avatar
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 18
    We need 50 raid roulette, 60 alliance raid roulette, 70 alliance raid roulette and 80 alliance raid roulette.
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