What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[KizuyaKatogami]

The first sentence is literally refuted by an entire voiced cutscene, the second the following voiced cutscene after it. If you want to have those answers then you may wish to go back and watch the cutscenes at the end of our time in Elpis again.

Much as is most of the peoples arguments in here and yet theres still people trying to advocate for specific arguments that are refuted time and time again by in game text. But please, link the dialogue? I need a bit of a refresher. They had no other options at the time. It wasnt giving into despair so much as giving in to wanting to save their people and their planet. Also doesnt change the fact that it was a solution that we ourselves relied upon and would be dead without it. Considering all of Venat's plan hinged on him, im curious how its just purely an act of despair and not simply, an act of wanting to save their star. Especially since we know as well, Zodiark was already a concept before the final days.

[EaraGrace]

Much as is most of the peoples arguments in here and yet theres still people trying to advocate for specific arguments that are refuted time and time again by in game text. But please, link the dialogue? I need a bit of a refresher. They had no other options at the time. It wasnt giving into despair so much as giving in to wanting to save their people and their planet. Also doesnt change the fact that it was a solution that we ourselves relied upon and would be dead without it. Considering all of Venat's plan hinged on him, im curious how its just purely an act of despair and not simply, an act of wanting to save their star. Especially since we know as well, Zodiark was already a concept before the final days.

This series of cutscenes is what you’re looking for.

https://youtu.be/C8ngZGj-f0o

And the issue is not with Zodiarks existence, but how the Ancients were growing to rely and venerate him as a means to protect and sustain their “paradise.” There is a very large gap between finding a solution to a calamity, and finding a solution to suffering or fear itself. One is a realistic goal that won’t compromise one’s ability to find a way forward, the other is a hollow goal that will inevitably fail and leave them with nothing. When Meteion describes the civilization she found that eschewed all suffering and instead sought only joy, the end result was they lost the will to love as their lives held no meaning to them. When she described a society that worshipped a benevolent deity, what did she say ended up happening? The deity killed them, and then itself.

To summarize, his creation was not an act of despair, but his death or failure would leave them with nothing but despair.

This is a species here that faced near total devastation of their planet and their own people. If we're talking about the exchange of souls that went into some entities born of their creation magicks, it is plainly obvious to me why they'd consider the option and exercise a preference for their own people and perform an exchange of the souls held in limbo in Zodiark, particularly since these familiars were rather more childlike entities compared to them and in need of a lot of handholding if they were to inherit the star. If it's ancients for ancients? Then I'd agree that such a course would be contentious but unless and until the devs take the time to clarify it, I maintain it is shrouded in ambiguity.

See here’s where we get spicy. The moral consideration of a life should not, cannot, be dependent solely on whether it is as intelligent as the being it has come in contact with. An alien race of super geniuses is not allowed morally to slaughter and enslave humans just because they were less intelligent. And placing a preference for your own people over the lives and rights of others is a dark road.