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  1. #31
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I don't really care that much about the dps as I don't Savage. But it would feel better if I'm not overwriting my own DoT even though I'm using a completely different skill. Just in the sense of not putting in traps in the skills that players have to actively avoid. I know some people love it and say it's part of "skill", but that's not really what I'm talking about.

    This is in the same theme as having a weaker shield from Healer 1 overwite a stronger shield from Healer 2. It can be argued that Healer 1 needs to L2P, but it's still a bad feeling when it happens (and I agree the healer shield case is a lot more legitimately unavoidable at times, not so with the PLD overwriting his own DoT being totally his own fault).
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  2. #32
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    After doing a quick look at the DPS value of the blade of valor combo, Im now wondering how much of the DoT is overwritten?
    The full BoV combo is only 20 DPS higher than if you just ended at Confiteor, and went back to normal combos. IF...
    If you ignore the DoT added by BoV. (ill explain why you ignore it below)
    if the amount of Goring overwritten is greater than 20 lost DPS, (taking into account the time it takes to ramp up the combo to do the next goring) then id imagine it could be a DPS increase to just not bother with BoV combo.

    This seem too wonky to be true, so im glad to hear if im wrong by someone whos has real experience playing PLD. (i dont really play PLD)

    EDIT: i put the value of the physical combo to be FB+RB+RA+A+A+A then divide by 6. I put the value of BoV combo as BoF+BoT+BoV then divide by 3
    i forgot i need to adjust the physical combo value by the goring blade combo as well, so it should be the same as above, but also +FB+RB+GB but divide by 9 instead of 6.
    This puts BoV combo valued DPS as 58 more potency, instead of 20. (again, ignoring the DoT dmg added by either combo)
    So the updated version would be if youre losing more than 58 potency from overwriting the DoT. (again, idk where this situation takes place in the rotation well enough to try and add the potencies up)
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 01-20-2022 at 03:12 PM.

  3. #33
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    I don't really care that much about the dps as I don't Savage. But it would feel better if I'm not overwriting my own DoT even though I'm using a completely different skill. Just in the sense of not putting in traps in the skills that players have to actively avoid. I know some people love it and say it's part of "skill", but that's not really what I'm talking about.
    Not sure where you're overwriting your own DoT, because that shouldn't happen. You apply your 2nd Goring Blade during FoF when your 1st one is about to run out and you apply the Valor combo's DoT as your 2nd Goring is about to run out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    So the updated version would be if youre losing more than 58 potency from overwriting the DoT. (again, idk where this situation takes place in the rotation well enough to try and add the potencies up)
    I haven't played paladin that much either but I'm pretty sure you're never actually overwriting your DoT, unless you drop an Atonement to make your rotation align with raid buffs and in that case you're overwriting your BoV DoT early and not your GB DoT.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 01-20-2022 at 06:06 PM.

  4. #34
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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I haven't played paladin that much either but I'm pretty sure you're never actually overwriting your DoT, unless you drop an Atonement to make your rotation align with raid buffs and in that case you're overwriting your BoV DoT early and not your GB DoT.
    Yeah, correct, the BoV dot will be overwritten in around 2s skipping one Atonement.

    Skipping 1 Atonement slows the de-sync, doesn't stay aligned.
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