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  1. #21
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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    We're obtaining what we wish, no use discussing more.

    Yoshida has stated Paladin will be receiving DPS buffs, that's all we wanted and got the wish.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  2. #22
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Here's hoping PLD gets bumped up to DRK levels so we can bathe in the resulting tears.
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  3. #23
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    HrudolfBerret's Avatar
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    Hrudolf Berret
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    In my opinion the best way to fix this would be giving valor a physical damage buff equal to fof without being able to stack, lasting about 18 seconds long

    This would do two things
    Fix paladins low dps output without changing it's general rotation
    Fix confiteor openers being awkward
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  4. #24
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    Ollanius Pius
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    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    i think give a job 2 DoT is just bad over all (Looking at you DRK). If SE want to stack 2 DOT on PLD its gonner mess up your Rotation. Just give PLD some potency buff and be done with it. The job is so good with tank right now that give them more is just too overpower
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  5. #25
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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Atonement potency buff, Blades potency buff, change the Confiteor/Blades into Skill Speed ruling, Pld does fall so behind raid buffs.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  6. #26
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    Spratchet's Avatar
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    Character
    Mint Creme
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by OllaniusPius View Post
    i think give a job 2 DoT is just bad over all (Looking at you DRK). If SE want to stack 2 DOT on PLD its gonner mess up your Rotation. Just give PLD some potency buff and be done with it. The job is so good with tank right now that give them more is just too overpower
    PLD already has 2 dots they can apply at a time in the form of 'Circle of Scorn' and 'Goring Blade' OR 'Blade of Valor'. Having multiple dots does not make a job overpowered. All S.E. would need to do is adjust potencies and they could easily use all 3 at once.

    I don't think they should do that, but it's entirely feasible.
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  7. #27
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    NeoDivinity's Avatar
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    Red Divinity
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Spratchet View Post
    PLD already has 2 dots they can apply at a time in the form of 'Circle of Scorn' and 'Goring Blade' OR 'Blade of Valor'. Having multiple dots does not make a job overpowered. All S.E. would need to do is adjust potencies and they could easily use all 3 at once.

    I don't think they should do that, but it's entirely feasible.
    meh i think so but i too believe for some reason stacking dots is a dumb mechanic to give in rank role, specially a PLD. I would only wish that atones dont break combos so we can manipulate our timeline more.
    i just cant stop thinking the burden that would be to always try keep both of them up 100% of the fight, feels like a Bard gameplay to me but the bad version of it that didnt had Iron jaws

    Also WTH Square Enix, why Circle of Scorn sucks so much? id reather have it be a flat damage oGCD, that ability is straight garbo.(sorry ARR Devs. its sad but its true)
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  8. #28
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I honestly don't see why you would even consider making them stack, Paladin's rotation is already too long (63-64 seconds).

    If you had to do a Goring combo after your Valor combo to get both dots ticking it would turn into a complete mess because now you're either adding another 3 GCDs to it, making you definitely drift out of raid buffs and delaying FoF (since even if you dropped an entire Atonement phase you would still be a GCD behind), or you have to drop even more Atonements and overwrite Goring early. I don't know about you, but to me that sounds absolutely awful in practice.
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  9. #29
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    Charming Tulip
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination713 View Post
    I don't understand why SE decided to do this. Currently PLD is the weakest tank in the game (don't pull the "utility" card because it's not true). Why did they decide to not let us have two DoT's going at once? Because of the new Blade of Valor skill, it screws up our physical DPS rotation and now it's weaker since we can only do 1 Goring Blade during the FoF window instead of 2.
    FoF is still 2 Goring Blade. You pop flight before Goring 1, and it falls off after Goring 2. Your entire concept is based on a misconception (and also the Blade of Valor DoT is equivalent to an FoF Goring, so it's a direct upgrade to your rotation).
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  10. #30
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    Seife Valerian
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Could make confiteur not end requiscat ,have req effect blade combo (as they are spells) and also the blade dot. Would save 3 gcds and improve plds damage. Might want to nerf blade combos aoe effectivenes instead of 50% to 70%.
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