She took control out of mankinds hands though. She sundered them and gave htem no choice in the matter. The ancients dictated the life of animals and insects Theres a very stark contrast. As for the occuria once again i repeat, they let humanity make mistakes. The only time they intervened was when mankind was in turmoil. Its a bit crazy to me that you thing thats wrong, preventing a species from killing itself. Yes the occuria wanted ashe to destroy archades because 1.It turned into a hivemind of which Venat was manipulating all of the people there and 2. It was housing incredibly dangerous tools that even show up in 12-2 and almost end the world again.Would it end a lot of lives? Yes but in the end it would be better for the world. Not really any different from Ironworks willing to sacrifice an entire timeline of peoples, millions upon millions just to bring back 1 person now is it? You're leaving out a loooot of context and trying to paint them in your own narrative when it isnt the case, and youre doing the same with the ancients. They respected life. They preformed rites for them they had funerals for them. Some express remorse for some of the familiars that are put down. Hermes wasnt the only one, he was just the only one that was a bit mental. He didnt go out and seek out help and thats on him. Its the same problem Venat has. She didnt seek out people and inform them of what was happening. Instead, she did the very thing youre bashing the occuria for, she took control of her own peoples lives and shattered them. She didnt give them the chance they deserved, and then continue to preach about suffering and learning to walk. Shes a hypocrite, shes a manipulator, and shes for all intents and purposes imo a monster. These are all things that fit under Venat's guise as well and its why i made the comparison. Both were in the wrong, both were horrible people, and both effectively doomed humanity in one way or another.