Consider FFXIV on XBox

[MaxCarnage]

What stops those decade old PCs getting that same upgrade and then once again outperform PS4? Fair if both gets the upgrade

No one here is saying that PC players can't upgrade. Sure they could. Though, if they have an outdated PC, they'll have to buy more than just a brand new processor. Got to make sure all your parts are compatible. But just because they ~could~ upgrade, doesn't mean all of them are. The fact of the matter is people with lower end PCs are the ones holding up the game from being upgraded to need higher system requirements. That is a irrefutable fact that the Dev team has stated.

If someone has a decade old PC, if they haven't upgraded yet, chances are they won't until that thing finally kicks the bucket. Cause nothing has made them upgrade yet. And not every PC compenent is compatible with each other. That would be an expensive upgrade.

[Kolaina]

What stops those decade old PCs getting that same upgrade and then once again outperform PS4? Fair if both gets the upgrade

Because on a lot of pcs that happen to be old, it’s more than a single piece of hardware that needs to be replaced due to compatibility

[Doragan]

Yoshida stated it multiple times over the years (a few weeks ago even, actually), and Phil Spencer as well. FFXIV is very much coming on Xbox, but frankly, with the server log in issues, probably after we get the new data centers.

[Fayt1203]

Yoshida have said that are plans to bring it to xbox the main problem is schedule stuff they don't seem to find a opening in it to make the port to xbox but he said that way back when endwalker was still in early production so much could have changed since then

[Lunalepsy]

That sounds like a hot mess waiting to happen.

[elizeugba]

Yeah a quick google search show me that. Im surprised Sony allowed that. There's a ton of games i cant play multiplayer due not being able to afford plus.

Sony policy with playing online without the need of PS+ is: Free to play games and Pay to Play games. Of course P2P games this day are very rare (probably only XIV in the ps store), but you can freely play f2p games online like Fortnite.

[Izar_Chillen]

No one here is saying that PC players can't upgrade. Sure they could. Though, if they have an outdated PC, they'll have to buy more than just a brand new processor. Got to make sure all your parts are compatible. But just because they ~could~ upgrade, doesn't mean all of them are. The fact of the matter is people with lower end PCs are the ones holding up the game from being upgraded to need higher system requirements. That is a irrefutable fact that the Dev team has stated.

Can you provide a source because I'd be interested to read it .


There are already PC only Armour and NPC/player Texture upgrades and rescaled/sculpted mods that vastly improve the games visuals beyond the current defaults and those mods can run on old hardware with ease


Ive never know a large MMO developer to hold back upgrading core components of their engine and gfx pipelines because some people refuse to buy modern laptops/Desktops

Any time there was a major shift in the directX used and or more modern cpu instruction sets implemented or nvidia/amd apis added in , or a vast increase in storage and storage type, the developers gave plenty of warnings before hand that old hardware past a certain capability would no longer be supported , list the requirements in supports links or press articles and such

[Thaciscokidd]

Can you provide a source because I'd be interested to read it .


There are already PC only Armour and NPC/player Texture upgrades and rescaled/sculpted mods that vastly improve the games visuals beyond the current defaults and those mods can run on old hardware with ease


Ive never know a large MMO developer to hold back upgrading core components of their engine and gfx pipelines because some people refuse to buy modern laptops/Desktops

Any time there was a major shift in the directX used and or more modern cpu instruction sets implemented or nvidia/amd apis added in , or a vast increase in storage and storage type, the developers gave plenty of warnings before hand that old hardware past a certain capability would no longer be supported , list the requirements in supports links or press articles and such

Its a old interview but I think this is it.

https://www.dualshockers.com/final-f...isual-upgrade/

[Izar_Chillen]

Its a old interview but I think this is it.

https://www.dualshockers.com/final-f...isual-upgrade/

That is a par for the course developer response

WoW had to slowly add in new tech as to not alienate old laptop users .


More recently they had press releases about hoping their users adopt SSD due to the size of the game install getting way larger and map details getting more intense


What Yoshi has said certainly isnt " an irrefutable fact " "people with lower end PCs are the ones holding up the game from being upgraded" as spouted by the person i responded to


Also: thanks for the link

[Anvaire]

I see you don't get it. Let me explain it to you >again<. We saw what happened with the PS3 and how long they supported it. Could be that it will be the same for the PS4 now, right? Maybe in 10 years they still try to make the game work for PS4.

And now imagine getting another console into the game. They don't upgrade at the same time perfectly sync, you know that right? Maybe the next MS console will come 3 years after the next PS or maybe not. It would be a huge support mess if they don't stick to the new consoles and supporting old consoles until they turn to dust cause of their age.

For PC you can always easily increase the requirements the game has, game needs more ram? You can get more ram. But consoles can't, they can't upgrade spontaneously. Especially when you literally support decades old console systems.

Which at the end also sucks up development time cause you need to try to make it work for literally everything.

I don't think you can use PS3 as an example really. PS3 support was added to fulfil a promise the 1.0 devs made. They released the PS4 version a year later and then finally dropped support i Stormblood. They also semidropped support for 32 bit operating systems. You say that older generations hold back the graphics, but i really dont think they do. I think the devs want ffxiv to run on a range of pc's and purposly limit graphical output to achieve that. The graphics of XIV arent bad either given its age. I suspect what holds it back more is the outdated engine the game runs on as YP has repeatedly said in interviews to achieve x they will need to rebuild the engine. Viera and Hrothgar are a case and point in this regard,