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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Why in the world would you willingly go into someone's room where the other person clearly has the intent to engage in adult RP, only to report them?

    You can't report on behalf of others, it would have had to have been one of the persons involved.
    Like I said twice already throughout this thread:

    There are literally people out there who want the nightlife/RP scene shut down fully and will go into venues to trap workers for the sake of reporting them. It's happened before and still occurs now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Like I said twice already throughout this thread:

    There are literally people out there who want the nightlife/RP scene shut down fully and will go into venues to trap workers for the sake of reporting them. It's happened before and still occurs now.
    That in itself should be an offense. Disruption of gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    That in itself should be an offense. Disruption of gameplay.
    Yes, but what exactly are you gonna say as a counter to that report? "Yes, I was violating the ToS but so were they!"?

    Doesn't change the fact that the person in question originally was in violation nor the ruling put onto the person by the GMs. It's a gross way to go about it on the part of the reporters but it doesn't change the reality of the situation that you're breaking the ToS by having paid brothel services and advertising it publicly. The acts themselves are behind closed doors, yes, but the advertisements and carrd information are not.

    That is the actual issue here compared to the actual act of ERP. If the ERP was the issue, then the game would be like PSO2:NGS where all messages (private or public) are scanned for sexual content and people are permanently banned shortly after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Yes, but what exactly are you gonna say as a counter to that report? "Yes, I was violating the ToS but so were they!"?

    Doesn't change the fact that the person in question originally was in violation nor the ruling put onto the person by the GMs. It's a gross way to go about it on the part of the reporters but it doesn't change the reality of the situation that you're breaking the ToS by having paid brothel services and advertising it publicly. The acts themselves are behind closed doors, yes, but the advertisements and carrd information are not.
    At best both will be ban. This problem has been here since forever, or in any social media really, salty people are going to report you because blocking/ignoring and moving on with your life is not enough. Then, you have an even more special kind that do it for the luls, I meet many that like annoying others to get a reaction and then report.

    Still, this is a self made problem by the ERP community in particular, instead of keeping a low profile the whole thing evolved to what we have now. Some forget that even if SE look the other way if they could make it go away without loosing money they will.

    It's like with DPS metters, tolerated as long as you keep it to yourself.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 01-16-2022 at 10:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    That in itself should be an offense. Disruption of gameplay.
    since RP and ERP is not officially gameplay, that would be a stretch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    since RP and ERP is not officially gameplay, that would be a stretch.
    More of the act of entrapment.

    it's called a honeypot, and is technically illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    More of the act of entrapment.

    it's called a honeypot, and is technically illegal.
    again, a stretch. for that the GM would have to be able to read minds. The GM would have to read messages prior to the reporter going to the venue, and talking specifically about being solicited for the purposes of reporting. but since its more likely they would decide to do that without communicating intentions to their FC or whomever, it then becomes one persons word against the other. when it gets to that point, you have a venue advertising 18+ with linked activities which include such things, the evidence points to the report being "accurate"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    More of the act of entrapment.

    it's called a honeypot, and is technically illegal.
    GMs are not police and being banned from the game is not a form of legal prosecution.
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