Roleplay Party Finder Account Suspensions

[Kranel_San]

so your position is anyone who might get offended by something you say is a "karen"?

thats actually a rather amusing generalization of people who arent you. the GM's have to follow the rules set out by SE, they dont have free reign to issue bans or warnings. they have guidelines, its not a free for all as you seem to think.

Well, Imagine someone coming out of nowhere and saying you used an offensive word to a segment of people despite not referring to them at all. You take a defensive approach with them while being polite and they start threatening you. That's pretty much what a Karen is.

Tbf, I was called a "trap" before because I am trans; it can be a rather offensive word. To me, I do find the word to be offensive, since I am not the only trans person I know that's been called a trap before, and I never really hear it being used in a positive manner...so take that as you will.

Whether you said it in a way that was meant that way or not, I'm still not a fan of the word. But to each their own? Idk.

You used an anti-trans slur and got dinged for it by a GM, gotcha.

As of you two. I have never seen it being used before to refer to trans in any possible way, and I said earlier this might be in the grey area to avoid discussing my case in order to avoid discussing my case and focus on the bigger issue, which is cases like these can happen. Misunderstanding from both sides ( Players or GMs ) can happen, and for that, I'd like the support to provide the players with a way to discuss & object in case a misunderstanding happened rather than inflicting a direct penalty and warning to never repeat it, leaving some players in a state of questioning the decision.
I believe we all can agree that some cases ( The RP venue for example ) at the very least would need and benefit from said suggestion, no?

[Floortank]

As of you two. I have never seen it being used before to refer to trans in any possible way, and I said earlier this might be in the grey area to avoid discussing my case in order to avoid discussing my case and focus on the bigger issue, which is cases like these can happen. Misunderstanding from both sides ( Players or GMs ) can happen, and for that, I'd like the support to provide the players with a way to discuss & object in case a misunderstanding happened rather than inflicting a direct penalty and warning to never repeat it, leaving some players in a state of questioning the decision.
I believe we all can agree that some cases ( The RP venue for example ) at the very least would need and benefit from said suggestion, no?

What misunderstanding? Someone asked you to stop, and you didn't because you disagreed that what you were saying is offensive.

The Prohibited Activities document is clear about ERP being defined as something not any more explicit than innuendo based expressions. But their venue carrd has a very porn-like image on it and is advertising straight up prostitution services. It is an open and shut case.

[Themarvin]

Putting 18+ RP in it, is a direct invitation to get hammered by that, and also you should know better, whatever you do in privatein this game behind shut doors or group chat, is your own business as far as I know.

Saying that the violation and ban was a joke, must be a joke, read the ToS about the things you probably should know is in the grey or prohibited areas, or ask a question.

[Shibi]

...That's pretty much what a Karen is....

Nah, Karens are entitled women who talk down at shop assistants when they don't their way. Usually demanding to speak to the manager, pulling out their phone to film it, then threatening to tell all their friends never to shop there again, before storming out and throwing their vegan double soy pumpkin spice chai latte at the window (or staff).

The entitlement is key. Without the entitlement.. they are not Karens.

[Coletergeist]

Well, Imagine someone coming out of nowhere and saying you used an offensive word to a segment of people despite not referring to them at all. You take a defensive approach with them while being polite and they start threatening you. That's pretty much what a Karen is.





As of you two. I have never seen it being used before to refer to trans in any possible way, and I said earlier this might be in the grey area to avoid discussing my case in order to avoid discussing my case and focus on the bigger issue, which is cases like these can happen. Misunderstanding from both sides ( Players or GMs ) can happen, and for that, I'd like the support to provide the players with a way to discuss & object in case a misunderstanding happened rather than inflicting a direct penalty and warning to never repeat it, leaving some players in a state of questioning the decision.
I believe we all can agree that some cases ( The RP venue for example ) at the very least would need and benefit from said suggestion, no?

I wasn't exactly trying to say that you meant any harm in any way and understand that it was unintentional on your behalf due to a misunderstanding, I was simply trying to tell you why folks might see the word being offensive and why it may just simply be not a good idea to use it in any way because of that fact. If a majority in the lgbt find a word offensive, maybe it just might be?
Even if used in a different text, it's still offensive. It's the word, not the way you're using the word.
Even if we're simply talking about 'fem boys' and not 'a trans' - as you put it - still offensive.
Just learn from it and move on.

[kejakalope]

Well, Imagine someone coming out of nowhere and saying you used an offensive word to a segment of people despite not referring to them at all. You take a defensive approach with them while being polite and they start threatening you. That's pretty much what a Karen is.





As of you two. I have never seen it being used before to refer to trans in any possible way, and I said earlier this might be in the grey area to avoid discussing my case in order to avoid discussing my case and focus on the bigger issue, which is cases like these can happen. Misunderstanding from both sides ( Players or GMs ) can happen, and for that, I'd like the support to provide the players with a way to discuss & object in case a misunderstanding happened rather than inflicting a direct penalty and warning to never repeat it, leaving some players in a state of questioning the decision.
I believe we all can agree that some cases ( The RP venue for example ) at the very least would need and benefit from said suggestion, no?

You know the scene from Clerks 2 where Randall tries to reclaim a racial slur? That's what you're re-enacting right now.

I'm sorry you didn't notice that XIV isn't 4chan but it isn't this community's job to teach you why it's not okay to ironically use hate speech around strangers, or in general really.

[Shibi]

18+ activity falls under "don't ask, don't tell". The key take away they quote in TOS examples is: "Will not be considered a violation unless a report is made". It's 100% a violation with this language, but they are not hunting it randomly. They act on report alone.

To save people looking it up, this is the example listed on https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216



So, it's allowed in private between consenting players, but if one of those two players locked in a room is entrapping you, then you can be sanctioned. Likewise if a third person stumbles in on it, and is offended, then you can be sanctioned.

There is also the third part of it, if you are painting a target on your back with a PF finder ad, then you need to be squeaky clean and not also roleplay, as you can place a bet that someone will report, a GM will be pulling your chatlogs and reading them, and seeing your sex-games.

[DPZ2]

They are allowed in your 18+ marked event because the game is, in totality, rated 13+.

The 'Teen' rating' holds in the United States and other parts of North America. The ESRB holds little sway around the rest of the world. In most of Asia this game is rated 15+, in most of Europe it is rated 16+.

Those ratings give wide latitude to retailers to limit sales of a game, but that's not their main purpose. The game rating system is a Band-Aid that pretends there is no need for policing video games by law because, see, game producers are voluntarily suggesting age ranges for which a game is suitable, despite not knowing anything about your children or what you'd allow them to play. I'm pretty sure that a 10 year old with a credit card can purchase M-rated games via Steam (used as an example only), as there is no way for Steam to verify your age, other than to ask and pretend that's enough.

Please keep this in mind as you attempt arguments using "for the kids".

This game was never designed "for the kids", although SE is perfectly welcome to police their game in any way they choose. There are plenty of other venues, non-RP venues by the way, where interactions between players are both unregulated and possibly dangerous "for the kids".

[Ranaku]

So what people don't get is the reason WHY SE needs to have such a harsh take on this matter. THE GAME IS NOT ONLY AVAILABLE IN YOUR COUNTRY AND DOESN'T JUST ABIDE TO THE LAW IN SAID COUNTRY WHERE YOU LIVE. It has to be so neutral that it doesn't get into a conflict with laws from all countries in which the game is available.

If you do stuff like ERP sexting and use mods you can get to jail for that in most arabic countries, like literally to jail and not for just 3 silly days.

So i know the last years brought even more brainrot forth but heck it is not hard to understand that SE "has" to take actions against stuff cause if someone makes a fuzz about it in their country worst case the game gets banned or the company gets fined and players lose access to the game and SE obviously their money.

I know it must be a really really weird strange and unimaginable idea that the whole world (and maybe the sun too) doesn't spin around the US (example ofc cuz most western players are from the US obviously) and everyone doesn't just judges after their laws and stuff. But maybe you can scrape the rest of your neurons together to finally understand this totally foreign concept.

And this was just a example, sexting laws and all that stuff is also really strict in many western countries. So heck, keep the partyfinder clean and your pants closed, not that hard. Sometimes i have the feeling second life or such crap would be the better choice for some fellas here.

[TosumeTosu]

While I understand SE has to take action against reports because global laws, I don't understand the backlash about 18+ as a tag for player events. It doesn't mean that you need to be ERPing and sexting.

Sometimes it can mean you are engaging in themes that are smoking, drinking, etc. Or you just don't want to interact with minors. I, as a mid-20s person have 18+ only in my search info *because* I have no interest in roleplaying with children. I don't even ERP in the game that often, I just don't want to have extended interactions with minors that can either be taken out of context or just be reported due to the fact that I'm a mid-20s adult and they're still legally a child. That isn't a position that any self-respecting non-predatory adult would want.

People have things listed as 18+ because they don't want to interact with kids at certain events, venues or spaces. Just because teenagers are allowed to play the game doesn't mean they are allowed to interact with every player and in every event. Heavens forbid adults actually want to surround themselves with other people of their relative maturity as opposed to lurking in a group of teenagers. It makes no sense that players are getting banned due to things that are not expressly stated in the TOS and it shouldn't be a bannable offense to limit your venue or player events to people that are actually adults.