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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    according to the ToS its only a problem if someone is there with you, finds it offensive, and reports you.
    Which is ridiculous. Happened to me when someone found something I said to be offensive despite it is NOT in any definition and there were ten others who found it okay but still I got warned.
    ToS is in Karens' favor which shouldn't really be and we should get the ability to object on warnings & bans.
    Actually from what I understand. The current support system can allow a GM to ban a couple of people for no particular reason and get out with it as long as they don't get detected/outraged by the community.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Which is ridiculous. Happened to me when someone found something I said to be offensive despite it is NOT in any definition and there were ten others who found it okay but still I got warned.
    ToS is in Karens' favor which shouldn't really be and we should get the ability to object on warnings & bans.
    Actually from what I understand. The current support system can allow a GM to ban a couple of people for no particular reason and get out with it as long as they don't get detected/outraged by the community.
    What was it you said, exactly, out of curiosity? Paraphrased, I mean, don't exactly recreate a ToS infraction here obviously.
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  3. #173
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    Why am I not surprised the person who posted this is in Balmung ,I guess the solutions is to make Balmung 18+ server . As it should be.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadeblade View Post
    Why am I not surprised the person who posted this is in Balmung ,I guess the solutions is to make Balmung 18+ server . As it should be.
    90% of the ads for this crap we get on Balmung are from people on Goblin or Zalera.
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  5. #175
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    It seems that this thread is turning into Shout Chat. Beware!
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  6. #176
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Which is ridiculous. Happened to me when someone found something I said to be offensive despite it is NOT in any definition and there were ten others who found it okay but still I got warned.
    ToS is in Karens' favor which shouldn't really be and we should get the ability to object on warnings & bans.
    Actually from what I understand. The current support system can allow a GM to ban a couple of people for no particular reason and get out with it as long as they don't get detected/outraged by the community.
    so your position is anyone who might get offended by something you say is a "karen"?

    thats actually a rather amusing generalization of people who arent you. the GM's have to follow the rules set out by SE, they dont have free reign to issue bans or warnings. they have guidelines, its not a free for all as you seem to think.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    the GM's have to follow the rules set out by SE, they dont have free reign to issue bans or warnings. they have guidelines, its not a free for all as you seem to think.

    No offense, but this seems like a super naïve perspective to me! The ToS and the rules are written so that GMs can enforce them in virtually any way they like.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    No offense, but this seems like a super naïve perspective to me! The ToS and the rules are written so that GMs can enforce them in virtually any way they like.
    no offense but they would have to report suspensions. which can be reviewed by supervisors. its pretty niave to think they can run amok and do whatever they want. could they? certainly. would they be employed for long not likely.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    no offense but they would have to report suspensions. which can be reviewed by supervisors. its pretty niave to think they can run amok and do whatever they want. could they? certainly. would they be employed for long not likely.
    Square does not care nor is there any reason why square should care. The rules are written specifically so that GMs have the ability to take action as they deem fit. There are no guardrails keeping them on the straight-and-narrow, and nobody is micromanaging their decisions. There's no reason to believe otherwise.
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Square does not care nor is there any reason why square should care. The rules are written specifically so that GMs have the ability to take action as they deem fit. There are no guardrails keeping them on the straight-and-narrow, and nobody is micromanaging their decisions. There's no reason to believe otherwise.
    plenty of reasons why SE would care, but I think the best position to take it, is we disagree. you are of the opinion that GM's are running amok and powermad with angst against rp'ers and I think there will always have to be oversight. we can likely leave it there. since neither of us have a view on their systems, we will never know.
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