Roleplay Party Finder Account Suspensions

[kejakalope]

Why in the world would you willingly go into someone's room where the other person clearly has the intent to engage in adult RP, only to report them?

You can't report on behalf of others, it would have had to have been one of the persons involved.

Because they're advertising gil-for-ERP on their carrd, and linking to their carrd in the advertisement. There's also adult images on the carrd, which is enough to get you banned all by itself. This has all been covered up-thread.

[Larirawiel]

which is absolutely explicitly not allowed as per the words out of Yoshi-P's own mouth.

Errm, are you sure that Yoshi-P said something like that? O_o

Cheers

[Driavna]

Errm, are you sure that Yoshi-P said something like that? O_o

Cheers

Press: What is your official stance on player-run “brothels,” wherein two consenting players have cybersex in exchange for in-game currency? [This was a contentious question, and one that Yoshida seemed blindsided by. -Ed]

Yoshida: First of all, there is a user agreement that all players have to agree to before they can even start playing Final Fantasy XIV. Within that user agreement is a clause that prohibits any unacceptable conduct to this end, including behavior that infringes upon laws. Any players who violate those rules will be punished by banning or other penalties. This applies no matter which end of the exchange a player is on. Everyone who plays Final Fantasy XIV is subject to investigation for violating the terms of service, period. Because Final Fantasy XIV is a worldwide game, there is the potential for players from many different regions to interact with one another, and we have legal support available to assist us in investigations to this end in many countries. If you see someone engaging in this type of behavior, we ask you to report it.

Original: https://www.cgmagonline.com/intervie...naoki-yoshida/

[Ranaku]

Sir, the ERP is in locked personal chambers in the FC house. It's private.

YES! And still you advertised it publicly. Who knows how the venue at the end looks? The GM doesn't. If you write "FAT BOOBAS COME NOW TO XYZ" into the PF and then you sell them in private darkrooms so nobody can see that they are actually Hrothgar, the GM doesn't know that. They see what you advertise and that is enough. 18+ + obvious escort/brothel advertisement is enough to get you into Gaol.

Cause what they know is that the venue you can go to is publicly available, i mean lol you posted the adress in PF. And you promised a bunch of naughty 18+ things. You think the GM visits the venue and makes a background check on all the stuff that is going on there?

[GaleMex]

But you did. I want honest convos. You said you will have it when people admit they are anti-RP. Why would that be your response to me, if I was never your intended target.

Also not missing the point. OP knows what they did. SE being vague is an old thing everyone knows about. It's been talked about often. I doubt SE would even consider changing that policy.

That was not pointed at you, specifically, but I will admit that I may have been overly general and rude and understand that you felt targeted. Apologies.

In the interest of being honest, to me, the point of this thread was genuinely never about ERP or carrds. The point was SE's vague language leading to discourse about what specifically is the issue here, resulting in confusion and then later multiple inferences made on something as vaguely defined as "inappropriate".

This is tangential, but something else that really odds me out is that multiple people have been issued 3 day suspensions when that isn't even the lowest tier of punishment. I've personally known people who did things like exploit the Ungarmax bug back in Stormblood when Squadrons were introduced and they only received a 1 day suspension. If the accounts have no prior warnings or strikes, why was the punishment ramped up so quickly?

[Zsolen]

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Apology accepted.

My point to you before is that the OP knew and was relying upon SE's policy of being vague to gain sympathy. They knew they had something NSFW out there. They had the real reason. It wasn't because of normal RP ads were targeted by a GM. SE's policy itself has been talked about often on these forums.

I have never heard anyone that used Ungarmax only get one day.

SE on their suspensions:

◆ Temporary Service Account Suspension
"Temporary Service Account Suspension" is a penalty issued when a serious violation is confirmed. When a Temporary Service Account Suspension penalty is issued, the user will not be able to play Final Fantasy XIV during the applicable suspension period.

There are three types of Temporary Service Account Suspension: 3 Days, 10 Days, and 20 Days. The duration of the suspension period is determined according to the severity of the violation, combined with the player's record of past violations. Even if a Caution or Warning was not issued in respect of past behavior, a temporary suspension may be imposed depending on the nature of the violation.

[Floortank]

People ought to read the "Prohibited Activities" definition of ERP.

It does not match the actual reality of what ERP is.

SE cannot condone something in its guidelines that would put their ESRB at risk.

[Ashpd]

Dev's gave you fellowships, but RPs still go to PF and get banned time after time.

[Nuki]

Iam sorry but are people here really pretending that a 18+ advertisement in a pf is not about explicit stuff???
You guys also believe that "Savage loot, mount titles etc - more infos via discord" is not about rmt right?

[Hunky]

18+ doesn't have to mean erp, but you can't deny that 18+ carries that association. At the least, 18+ suggests content that isn't suitable for minors.

You can use it in the hopes of discouraging minors from going to your event, but who's to say it actually will. Unless the minor is being supervised, that minor might decide to join your event and you would never know.

This is what they're trying to prevent.

Place yourself in the shoes of an outsider and look in.

If you place an 18+ advertisement on the party finder, no matter what the nature of your services are being offered, you're potentially exposing minors to that.

An 18+ advertisement on the party finder would be enough for a GM to start investigating. And like everybody has seen, it doesn't take much investigation to discover that the venue offers erp.

Honestly, 18+ content (no matter what it is) shouldn't be advertised on the party finder. This is not an M rated game.

Think about it. People buy this game for their kids thinking it's relatively safe because it's rated T and then find out there's a bunch of 18+ going on. Keep it off the party finder.