Increase Castrum abandon penalty

[Jlwolf306]

Not sure if this has been talked about yet or not but I really hope the devs double the penalty time for people skipping Castrum Meridianum. The level of people who ditch the Main Scenario roulette if its not Prae has been insane as of late. The past few weeks I think almost every time I've gotten Castrum I've had to re-que because one person will ditch and then suddenly the entire party does and giving dps wait times for the roulette can still take around 20+ minutes depending on what time of day it is is frustrating our time is being wasted by selfish players.

I'd say they could increase the EXP payout to match but then everyone would skip Prae to get the shorter of the two thus ending back with the same problem. I just hope they do something about this, new players get screwed over out of the story and both new and old get their time wasted especially if they are DPS trying to que for them.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

They have a penalty.

30 minutes.

Which is a solid enough consequence.

[van_arn]

Better to rework both with trusts and just delete the roulette entirely

[Espon]

You don't have to leave too just because others left. I've never had to wait more than 1-2 minutes for the party to refill, even if multiple people have left.

[LianaThorne]

You don't have to leave too just because others left. I've never had to wait more than 1-2 minutes for the party to refill, even if multiple people have left.

Was about to say, just stay till you're party lead and refill it yourself.

[Eriane_Elis]

Why are you even doing MSQ roul? XP? You can get as much XP doing fate trains. Trusts can give almost as much for the amount of time put into it and you don't have to deal with dumb monologues. Tomes? Do hunt trains instead. There are many alternatives to MSQ roulette and it doesn't matter if one person leaves, nobody notices. Half of the time, someone joins and just /follows a player and does nothing the whole time. Yoshi P mentioned he wanted to do something about the atrocity MSQ roulette is. If you don't want to do castrum, take the 30min penalty. Most people don't get that much time to play anyway. I think it's as balanced as it can be for what it is. New players don't get screwed, they are part of the whole experience just like anyone else, no need to wait, just go!

[Jit]

Obviously I have a hard time getting into prae lately so my sample size is small but the couple runs I've noted I actually received substantially more exp/hr in castrum than prae. I dont have my notes on me at the moment but Prae is generally a 59% exp bonus and a 45min run time while castrum is around a 53% exp bonus and only a 25 min run time(off memory numbers). These were on my low 80s SGE and GNB.

So im not entirely sure where this "leave castrum" mentality stems from. I have heard complaints that its the amount of effort involved which I find silly for the exp loss and penalty but I've also heard the exp is worse in castrum which I have personally witnessed the opposite.

[QooEr]

I'd say they could increase the EXP payout to match but then everyone would skip Prae to get the shorter of the two thus ending back with the same problem. I just hope they do something about this, new players get screwed over out of the story and both new and old get their time wasted especially if they are DPS trying to que for them.

Right now the people who leave castrum do so because they want to get more exp from the roulette, even if it takes them significantly longer to do so. Some will even attempt to get prae multiple times in a day. They value the exp and not the time.
In your hypothetical, those players wouldnt leave, because they value the exp more than the time spent. The people who would leave prae would be those who value time over exp.
....Except that would be counter productive and make no sense, since that would involve a 30 min penalty + another queue time, just to have a chance to get castrum. If one truly valued those 10 minutes they wouldnt leave prae to try to get castrum.


Ergo, if the exp of castrum matched prae, no one really gains anything from leaving either instance. Castrum's reward SHOULD match praetorium's.

[TaleraRistain]

Why do you have to re-queue? The party should fill up again if you give it a minute or two. I JIP'd as a dps into a Castrum with only 2 people the other day and I was the third and we filled back up in no time.

I do think it sucks when people leave, but I think any further restrictions wouldn't really solve the problem anyway.

[technole]

Better to rework both with trusts and just delete the roulette entirely

Changes are coming to the instance as YoshiP eluded to it last month. I almost imagine that could be what they could do since they also have plans to add trusts to some earlier dungeons.