The current State of Casters 6.05 edition - balancing discussion

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Your initial list doesn't mention much in regards to increasing SMN complexity. Neither can I see anything about having less restrictive rotation, the point you have been so heavily hung up on. You just straight up asked to be put above Red Mage. If you don't see how this is not pleasant to read for a Red Mage player, speding a patch or two with the lowest damage might humble you a bit. You've had your time in the sun after SE hyperbuffed SMN early in ShB.

Also, if you wanted your thread to be a SMN circlejerk, don't name it "The current State of Casters 6.05 edition - balancing discussion". Name it like one of the other SMN only threads we have so many of.

Plz rdm was by far not the lowest DPS in ShBs. I don't ever remember rdms being kicked or not being picked over smns. So how about stop trying to play the victim card like rdm was a dead job in any expac. I know I never asked to be hyperbuffed any expac. I always personally believe rdm and smn should be very close together in damage with smn slight beating them bc of the utility and rezs rdm does bring to the table. No one attacked you and no one is asking for rdm to be nerfed. So come down back to reality and stop having a powertrip. Being better than smn has really gone to your head and infected your ego so much.

I mean, objectively speaking, RDM really did spend the vast majority of its existence a meme almost entirely because of SMN. It isn't unreasonable that people with a preference for RDM would like to be allowed to to do content outside of the first two weeks of it for once. Putting SMN above RDM is going to slide them right back to Rez Mage status, particularly with how low risk SMN is now. SMN definitely needs help, but putting it in a position where it begins to eclipse RDM all over again is not the way to go about it. RDM already gets hit pretty hard in the DPS when it has to employ its utility.

And to note, RDM was changed up a bit with Endwalker. It now requires two brain cells instead of one.

The ok question to you "Why should anyone bring a smn over a rdm?" Please tell me what benefits a party gets for deciding to bring a smn over a rdm right now? Also, rdm being meme is a community problem and not a balance problem. I remember smn in ShB switching to rdm bc they didn't like smn rotation and the ghosting pet had. So I don't believe in this whole" RDM was dead after prog" meme yall keep bring up. Also at least rdm saw action during prog. Smn won't even sees that right now.