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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kordarion View Post
    I understand where you are coming from and a world with a proven method of reincarnation does make the concept of death a murky topic but doesn't death require you physical body to die as well as that is what facilitates the return of a person's soul to the aetherial sea so they can be reborn as a new person? That's how you can consider the wiping of memory not death, because the person's soul is still within their bofy and hasn't returned to the aetherial sea.

    Considering the fact that emet-selch said when explaining the sundering that it simply split each person into fourteen identical yet aetherically weaker beings and not that their souls were returned to the aetherial sea that the sundered ancients didn't technically die.
    If you want to define death in FFXIV as "the total destruction of the physical body and the returning of the soul to the Aetherial sea", instead of "the loss of ones memory", then the Rejoinings, which the story repeatedly frames as acts of mass-murder, fail to meet that definition. In an interview, Yoshi-P clarified that when a Rejoining takes place, the aetherial energies of the body and the soul are directly re-fused with their counterpart of the Source. It's just a reversal of what happened in the Sundering - nothing is destroyed or banished to the afterlife, and the essential self of both versions of the person is undamaged because it's identical in both. As shown with Ardbert, traces of the rejoined person are even retained in the process, much like in the Sundering.

    So my argument would change from "you must accept that either both Sundering and normal death is death, or that neither are, to be logically consistent" to "you must accept that either both Sundering and Rejoining is death, or neither are, to be logically consistent", I suppose.
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    Last edited by Lurina; 01-10-2022 at 09:14 PM.