Confusion (of the highest order) about Venat and Sundering

[sidurgu-12]

Yeah, even though it requires sacrifice, it doesn't kill, on the contrary, it creates new life on those reflected shards. But since when manipulating planets and creating life on them became a trivial thing that does not need that much energy to work?

life wasnt being created with the sundering, it only sprang up after zodiarks second sacrifice. plus it seems like venats group was quite big.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

life wasnt being created with the sundering, it only sprang up after zodiarks second sacrifice. plus it seems like venats group was quite big.

Then it brings us to my first point -- why it was worth it to sacrifice another group of people (now seemingly big) to prevent sacrificing of another group of people. It's sacrificing anyway? x)

I also love you guys turned this thread into discussion of something irrelevant lmao but still fun to read all these theories.

[Lurina]

Then it brings us to my first point -- why it was worth it to sacrifice another group of people (now seemingly big) to prevent sacrificing of another group of people. It's sacrificing anyway? x)

I also love you guys turned this thread into discussion of something irrelevant lmao but still fun to read all these theories.

I'm sorry, I probably should have just corrected his misunderstanding instead of commenting on it and starting the derail...

[Kordarion]

I'm sorry, I probably should have just corrected his misunderstanding instead of commenting on it and starting the derail...

I'm not sure misunderstanding is the right word to use when having a philosophical debate over what constitutes dying outside of the physical sense, but I also apologise for derailing this thread.

[Lurina]

I'm not sure misunderstanding is the right word to use when having a philosophical debate over what constitutes dying outside of the physical sense, but I also apologise for derailing this thread.

No, I mean the original misunderstanding was when sidurgu-12 thought that the OP was talking about Hydaelyn having killed people when the Sundering happened, rather than in the sacrifices to summon her, which is what they meant. And then I replied to correct them, and you replied to the side-comment I put in parenthesis, and so on.

[Kordarion]

No, I mean the original misunderstanding was when sidurgu-12 thought that the OP was talking about Hydaelyn having killed people when the Sundering happened, rather than in the sacrifices to summon her, which is what they meant. And then I replied to correct them, and you replied to the side-comment I put in parenthesis, and so on.

Ah, ok I get it now. All good, thank you for clearing that up.

[sidurgu-12]

No, I mean the original misunderstanding was when sidurgu-12 thought that the OP was talking about Hydaelyn having killed people when the Sundering happened, rather than in the sacrifices to summon her, which is what they meant. And then I replied to correct them, and you replied to the side-comment I put in parenthesis, and so on.

yeah that was my misunderstanding, sorry about that.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

I'm sorry, I probably should have just corrected his misunderstanding instead of commenting on it and starting the derail...

It's okay, I don,t mind it much. Like I said I actually enjoyed reading all the fun theories.

[Lersayil]

Then it brings us to my first point -- why it was worth it to sacrifice another group of people (now seemingly big) to prevent sacrificing of another group of people. It's sacrificing anyway? x)

I also love you guys turned this thread into discussion of something irrelevant lmao but still fun to read all these theories.

Back on point then! My read on this is that Venat was making a philosophical judgment here, not a moral one. It wasn't really the sacrifice of lifes she had her main issue with, but what it represented in her mind: a return to the old ways, which she deemed invalid in face of recent events.

Everything else technical about the sundering is just for (retroactive) plot convenience. Probably why we don't get too much specific information about it and its immediate aftermath.

[EaraGrace]

Then it brings us to my first point -- why it was worth it to sacrifice another group of people (now seemingly big) to prevent sacrificing of another group of people. It's sacrificing anyway? x)

I also love you guys turned this thread into discussion of something irrelevant lmao but still fun to read all these theories.

When Venat sunders the world she says

Venat: So let there be no way back. From that temptation I sunder us.

The intent was not simply to stop that third sacrifice, but to separate Zodiark, a god capable of fulfilling the Ancients short term desires and isolating them from any form of struggle, from them. Given he is the literal will of the star, the result is the world also being sundered. So in short, it’s not solely about saving one group by sacrificing another, it’s about saving all life from the Song of Oblivion, with the third Zodiark sacrifice being the point of no return for the Ancients.