Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

[Saraide]

Just report all posts of a dps requirement its against ToS.

Would you rather be silently kicked from PFs instead of setting transperent expectations beforehand?

[Genbe197]

Would you rather be silently kicked from PFs instead of setting transperent expectations beforehand?

That is harassment lol. If you're gonna be toxic toward players maybe just have a static and leave PF alone.

[MilkieTea]

That is harassment lol. If you're gonna be toxic toward players maybe just have a static and leave PF alone.

Can you please point to the exact TOS condition that lists this as harassment? Because I'm pretty sure it would instead fall under "difference in playstyle" which is a perfectly justified reason to be kicked, as GMs have stated multiple times before.

[Reinha]

That is harassment lol. If you're gonna be toxic toward players maybe just have a static and leave PF alone.

Just stay out of these parties you consider "toxic", problem solved.

[Batbrat]

That is harassment lol. If you're gonna be toxic toward players maybe just have a static and leave PF alone.

???
Group: "Hi, please only join if you're very experienced"
Person with 0 experience: (Joins)
Person with 0 experience: (Gets kicked)
Person with 0 experience: "HOLY TOXIC-I JUST GOT HARASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLLLLLLLLPPPP I'M A VICTIMMM!!!!!"

I just. I don't get it. I don't get it. Just don't join. Why do people constantly try to force themselves in places they know they don't belong. The need to be a martyr is way too high these days. 'im gonna deliberately go somewhere that I know I'm going to waste peoples time' especially with queue times this high and people only having X amount of time to be on before they have to sleep for work in the morning?? Get over yourselves tbh, you do not need to be in parties you can't fairly contribute to. Whining to GM's every time you get kicked is only going to irritate them GMs + make people trying to pug strong pf's so impossible that it's all entirely done over discords. This happened in the last MMO I played and it was awful. It makes group searching look flat out dead. You're not going to force yourself in, you're just going to make people arrange parties where you and the majority can no longer see them.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

That is harassment lol. If you're gonna be toxic toward players maybe just have a static and leave PF alone.

Please stay out of PF. You’d end up reporting nearly everyone because you didn’t get your way.

[Johners]

That is harassment lol. If you're gonna be toxic toward players maybe just have a static and leave PF alone.

I disagree, it's not harassment to set clear group expectations. The party finder is just a tool to help people find and fill groups, it's not an expectation of behaviour or play style. The duty finder, by extension, is also the same thing except the game groups you together and the content is designed so can't fail.

There's a fundamental difference between attacking someone for having bad parses and low DPS versus using that as a metric to determine what the expected outcomes of the group is for. Not everyone can or wants to join a static but doesn't mean they can't make or form groups, when they want to play, with a clear goal in mind. You're not entitled to a place in someone's party finder group just because they make it and if you're going to set super high requirements to join, you're not entitled to have anybody join your groups.

I really think Yoshi-P and the FFXIV community has to have an honest conversation about this and actually recognise the areas in which things are toxic and things are a mechanism to make entirely reasonable choices. I don't want to be the guy making the "you don't pay my subscription" argument but it is an MMORPG and while you should treat each other people with respect, they don't have to play with and it's usually not harassment if they don't.