Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

[Gothicshark]

WoW players are a net negative to the playerbase because they're just here for an "MMO" fix, not a "Final Fantasy" fix. The more "Final Fantasy" and the less "MMO" the game is, the better.

But nothing is stopping you from starting your own party.

Slow claps at the irony of this post. Brilliant, just brilliant, the issue with WOW which goes back to 2007 was Elitist gamers, the Current lead of WOW Ion was the Guild Master of "Elitist Jerks" which ran the famous WOW theory crafting web site. Yeah, this post screams the same level of Toxic Elitist Privilege that killed WOW.

And for your info, My First FF game was on the SNES when I was in the USMC in 1991. I Played all FF games released in the US in the 90s before Work caused me to step away from Console Gaming. I did however make an MMO account in 2000, and I signed up for a few different MMOs between 2000 and 2005 Settling on SWG, CoH, and WOW for my big three. SWG & COH both fizzled and I maintained WOW, I kept trying every MMO that came up, signing up for Betas and other things. Got invites to FF14, and ESO betas, both were bad, didn't stick, kept playing WOW until WOD rolled around with no Flying as a headline, Came to FF14ARR in time for HW. Had a Lala Tank, it was fun, then WOW Legion dropped so I went there for a bit, mostly to finish out the Legion Storyline which had been building since the game first launched as a RTS. Was happy to turn my Gnome Warlock into a Female Void Elf, my little man had transitioned Female as I did IRL. I came back to FF14 on and off after legion just in time for the end of SB, and the launch of ShB.

The issue I have with WOW is it is run by Misogynistic Elitist Jerks Fudge the Horde, Fudge the Alliance, Fudge Ion H****, Fudge Toxic Developers, Fudge Toxic Separation of the community under some sense of "gameplay". As to the post I am responding to, that person would fit in perfectly in WOW.

[Lunalepsy]

The WoW crowd has, by and large, peacefully assimilated into FFXIV's culture and are happy here. The stuff on display in this thread has always been part of XIV.

Totally agree, but some ppl are turning WoW into a scapegoat for no reason.

[Akimori]

“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

I mean...in Savage and Ultimate in PF, the goal is to clear, not babysit. I haven't even played wow and I can completely understand this. Dont join their party if you're going to waste time. You're being unfair to the 7 other people trying to progress by underperforming...If someone advertises a PF asking for say....Fountain of Fire Prog, it goes without saying that you are *expected* to know how to complete every mechanic up to FoF with little to no error. Walking in a party and failing the first mechanic everytime will get you kicked as you deserve to be. These under performing players who walk into said parties are usually the reason why the entire party is dismantled

[Johners]

Totally agree, but some ppl are turning WoW into a scapegoat for no reason.

WoW bad, FFXIV good, upvotes to the left...

In all seriousness though, it's a game that lived for long enough to see the vocal audience become people that hate the game. There's still some good game design in WoW IMHO, it's just the complete package has been getting worse over time and despite the developers saying otherwise, they're not actually doing any significant to improve the quality overall. I won't comment about the wider context of Activision Blizzard or the fact Blizzard in particular is bleeding talent.

I've enjoyed my time in FFXIV but it's also starting to get old enough as a game that I think quality of life problems are going to cause more grief/uproar within the community. The servers in particular, even though they're going to fix this, is something that's really outrageous in 2021/22. More importantly, as we finish one big story arc and move into the next, what if it's not as good? It's doesn't even have to be better than what we've played so far, but if it's perceived to be worse in comparison, it'll will cause rifts in the relationship between Square Enix and some players.

[Coatl]

“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

I mean this last one sounds kinda dire. Can't blame em.

[Raim]

These kind of things have happened since at least HW. They might be occurring more often but its not just a WoW scapegoat to blame. This is a person problem not an invasion. Simply report the ones requiring parses and blacklist people you think are acting improper. Eventually the staff will recognize the issues and crack down on them like they did with run sellers.

[SturmChurro]

Many players join regardless of knowing mechanics or not, often hoping to be carried. Then you get several who do that, and the party can't clear content. I can completely understand the frustration.

[JTWrenn]

It always amazes me how apathy allows people to just accept what they get.

Don't let people be horrible. if they are leave the party, if you are the tank and people are not playing nice, let them die, same for healers. Stop this horrible community killing style of play asap. Play together or don't play at all.

[Raven2014]

It always amazes me how apathy allows people to just accept what they get.

Don't let people be horrible. if they are leave the party, if you are the tank and people are not playing nice, let them die, same for healers. Stop this horrible community killing style of play asap. Play together or don't play at all.

100% did not read the thread before responding.

[gumas]

i take it this is on na server?, because iam in jp server and i dont see any. well okay i do see some similar phrasing but more... "polite" i guess? instead of 4K dps, i found something like "experienced dps only" or "clear runner only" stuff like that.

could be translation error since they are in jp words, but it just to show that that kind of stuff is everywhere, NA people (especially who come from wow) is just more.... "strict" i gues