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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    I'll reiterate my stance as ever: nerf or remove raise from casters entirely. There's a role dedicated to people who want the healer fantasy and neither RDM nor SMN are in it.
    With Summoners you may have a leg to stand on given that they've been depicted without white magic more often than they've had it. Red Mage, however, has always been a hybrid, capable of casting both black and white magic and serving as an effective melee. Tearing away Raise is basically ripping out a huge chunk of the class fantasy and identity.
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    With Summoners you may have a leg to stand on given that they've been depicted without white magic more often than they've had it. Red Mage, however, has always been a hybrid, capable of casting both black and white magic and serving as an effective melee. Tearing away Raise is basically ripping out a huge chunk of the class fantasy and identity.
    But it is in this case better at raise than White Mage. At no point should it be better at white magic than a White Mage, which is why my stance is "nerf or remove."

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    We could just make it a role action and remove that arguement right off the table since all casters would have access to it.
    I agree here, either all should have it or none should have it. In the case of RDM tho, it should still be disqualified from being dualcast, and it should be disqualified from BLM's triplecast. I think that would be my ideal scenario, if not second-ideal scenario personally.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    I agree here, either all should have it or none should have it. In the case of RDM tho, it should still be disqualified from being dualcast, and it should be disqualified from BLM's triplecast. I think that would be my ideal scenario, if not second-ideal scenario personally.
    Make it an ability with recast timer, say 60s or 120s
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