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  1. #31
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    perhaps if certain roles haven't been happy for quite a while
    And what are you basing this on exactly? A handful of loud people on a forum?
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  2. #32
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Omnomnomnom 1111111111111111111 is truly the pinnacle of class design, those craaaaaaaaazy healer complaints come from nowhere.
    Blame Gordias Savage for this. It was the hardest raid in the game, the one where healer DPS became mandatory. If not for that, people wouldn't be raging about healer DPS, and healers wouldn't have gotten nerfed due to people wanting to make it "easier" to perform well at.
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  3. #33
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    Doragan's Avatar
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    Direct Breeze
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Nuke spam on healers is pretty boring in any content, honestly. I hope they'll do something about it, all I wish is that we had more than one button to press during downtime. AST at least have cards to play with around, even if i don't like the current ones, they're still something extra to do. I picked up WHM for Asphodelos, and while I do enjoy the healing spells and abilities, this kind of glare spam gameplay is very underwhelming. I think it was better before.
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    Last edited by Doragan; 01-10-2022 at 04:59 AM.

  4. #34
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Blame Gordias Savage for this. It was the hardest raid in the game, the one where healer DPS became mandatory. If not for that, people wouldn't be raging about healer DPS, and healers wouldn't have gotten nerfed due to people wanting to make it "easier" to perform well at.
    Or blame the people who have the power to actually change the way the role works but choose to leave it alone and hand wave all the issues they have. The fact they literally aren’t even mentioned combined with the own forced slide during the pre expansion slide show is pretty telling.
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  5. #35
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    Aiscence Amano
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    And what are you basing this on exactly? A handful of loud people on a forum?
    And what are you basing yourself on? a bunch of people with 70% uptime free curing and whining the 90 msq dungeon is a step too much into the extreme difficulty?
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  6. #36
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    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Navnav View Post
    Take away tricks and increase NIN damage by 40%.
    My response:
    Quote Originally Posted by Navnav View Post
    This can't be for real lol.
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  7. #37
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiscence View Post
    And what are you basing yourself on? a bunch of people with 70% uptime free curing and whining the 90 msq dungeon is a step too much into the extreme difficulty?
    So you're just pulling anecdotes out of your ass now. Nice.
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  8. #38
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    Coatl's Avatar
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    Coatl Days
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Black Mage and Samurai need more fire power because of how busy they are. Meanwhile;



    I don't know where and how Black Mage is any busy. I don't know if this is a mistranslation issue but saying they will buff selfish DPS so reaper and monk don't out DPS them is fairer. Also rip MCH since they are also selfish. I guess mobility is a good and valid reason to have them do no damage.

    I get told that my Summoner should do less damage than Red Mage because of mobility tax since they're like a ranged physical.

    Where did Summoners ever asked to have more mobility than what they had in ShB? Anyways, I hope they rethink about SMN because it is too restrictive of a rotation to be enjoyable to optimize right now.
    BLM is the busiest and most fun it's ever been in a long time. You can tell it is Yoshi-P's star child by how well polished it is. Comparing CPM is a less than usual statistic considering MCH has the 2nd highest CPM and it is rather simple in comparison.
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    Last edited by Coatl; 01-10-2022 at 05:21 AM.

  9. #39
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    OtakuSempai's Avatar
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    Corvus Marcellus
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    Exodus
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    So you're just pulling anecdotes out of your ass now. Nice.
    No, he was being just as anecdotal and dismissive as you were in your post.

    Just because you don't believe there is something wrong with the healing role, doesn't mean there isn't anything wrong with it and lots of people have major issues with it. Not many of us are happy with 1111111111111111111111 gameplay and mp issues. I've also noticed a precipitous drop in healer participation in DF and PF since the expac started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anhaato View Post
    The biggest issue is that square just can't reconcile that some people won't play some jobs optimally. Instead of accepting that people will do that and complain about jobs being hard, they lower the skill ceiling on them. Sure it might make the more casual players happy, but even then for a job like this it's very rarely going to make someone who hated the job start loving it and want to main it. Meanwhile those who enjoyed it before feel alienated.

  10. #40
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    rewd's Avatar
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Spriggan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Black Mage and Samurai need more fire power because of how busy they are. Meanwhile;



    I don't know where and how Black Mage is any busy. I don't know if this is a mistranslation issue but saying they will buff selfish DPS so reaper and monk don't out DPS them is fairer. Also rip MCH since they are also selfish. I guess mobility is a good and valid reason to have them do no damage.

    I get told that my Summoner should do less damage than Red Mage because of mobility tax since they're like a ranged physical.

    Where did Summoners ever asked to have more mobility than what they had in ShB? Anyways, I hope they rethink about SMN because it is too restrictive of a rotation to be enjoyable to optimize right now.
    Yoshi said that it's MNK that needs buffs for how busy it is. SAM and BLM need buffs because they are selfish DPS.
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