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    ・作っている方もいるので罵詈雑言だけは止めていただきたい
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    Staff members DO READ the official forums of all language. Please exercise moderation and be civil when providing feedback.
    -> There are several posts where people were indeed providing feedback with strong language. This will discourage the staff members so please be polite and always double check and think through before pressing enter.


    Considering how active we have been in the forum and the overall reactions about DRK status compared to other jobs/stuff of the game in the last years this basically could be in great part aimed to us, in other words it's probable the current sad state of DRK gameplay experience could be like that bcs we have been so rude they choose to don't adress anything and keep the line bcs of it, independent of how much that could feed back the frustration and rudeness against them.
    Idk what to think to be honest, i understand they posture but at the same time i don't find it to be a proper solution either if that is actually the reason DRK gameplay is so horrible right now, it could have been fixed if they have posted in our threads telling us our feedback is being to rude and they would ignore it bcs of it way more sooner, not only we would see them interacting with us and we see they read us and correct our manners way more early they could have prevented the current levels of animosity against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    Idk what to think to be honest, i understand they posture but at the same time i don't find it to be a proper solution either if that is actually the reason DRK gameplay is so horrible right now, it could have been fixed if they have posted in our threads telling us our feedback is being to rude and they would ignore it bcs of it way more sooner, not only we would see them interacting with us and we see they read us and correct our manners way more early they could have prevented the current levels of animosity against them.
    This tbh. The reason many people have become rude in their comments is because they're frustrated at being ignored for so long. I don't think it's particularly fair to use this as an "excuse", while not bothering to ever answer people in here or even just moderate the forums by issuing warnings when people get too heated. Or banning some of the extremely notorious General Discussion trolls...

    That said if they've noticed people being rude, then maybe they are indeed reading, so that's some hope perhaps..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    Here is our official answer:

    ・作っている方もいるので罵詈雑言だけは止めていただきたい
    →ちょっと言葉が強すぎるところがある、スタッフが凹んでしまうのでエンターを押す前に考えてほしい
    Staff members DO READ the official forums of all language. Please exercise moderation and be civil when providing feedback.
    -> There are several posts where people were indeed providing feedback with strong language. This will discourage the staff members so please be polite and always double check and think through before pressing enter.


    Considering how active we have been in the forum and the overall reactions about DRK status compared to other jobs/stuff of the game in the last years this basically could be in great part aimed to us, in other words it's probable the current sad state of DRK gameplay experience could be like that bcs we have been so rude they choose to don't adress anything and keep the line bcs of it, independent of how much that could feed back the frustration and rudeness against them.
    Idk what to think to be honest, i understand they posture but at the same time i don't find it to be a proper solution either if that is actually the reason DRK gameplay is so horrible right now, it could have been fixed if they have posted in our threads telling us our feedback is being to rude and they would ignore it bcs of it way more sooner, not only we would see them interacting with us and we see they read us and correct our manners way more early they could have prevented the current levels of animosity against them.
    Where is this from ?

    Though I aggree with the issue of strong language, too often some (heck, i do it too when i get heated) resort to insulting or calling devs incompetent. Which honestly doesn't really achieve anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Where is this from ?

    Though I aggree with the issue of strong language, too often some (heck, i do it too when i get heated) resort to insulting or calling devs incompetent. Which honestly doesn't really achieve anything.
    From a stream that has been host today betwen yoship and other members, they have talked about some stuff including some of the balance they are going to do (not mentioning DRK at all as usual but saying that's doesn't mean no other jobs are going to se changes), you can find the translation on Reddit discord.
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    Last edited by shao32; 01-10-2022 at 05:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    From a stream that has been host today betwen yoship and other members, they have talked about some stuff including some of the balance they are going to do (not mentioning DRK at all as usual but saying that's doesn't mean no other jobs are going to se changes), you can find the translation on Reddit discord.
    You mean the stream that was directed towards Japanese audiences that was only translated by fans?

    Until the patch is actually out I'd treat it as usual corporate lipservice and not get your hopes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    From a stream that has been host today betwen yoship and other members, they have talked about some stuff including some of the balance they are going to do (not mentioning DRK at all as usual but saying that's doesn't mean no other jobs are going to se changes), you can find the translation on Reddit discord.
    So this was a general comment and not specific to tanks? I absolutely think they look at dps forums, just not tank forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danelo View Post
    So this was a general comment and not specific to tanks? I absolutely think they look at dps forums, just not tank forums.
    it's a general comment but consider the tank forum history, DRK threads history to be more precise and the huge amount of feedback and issues with the job unadressed i won't be surprised that comment is being aimed to us and Healer sub-forum too, i pretty much belive they see our forum and our complains and they choose to don't do anything or worst just the contrary of what we ask despite being so many ppl posting feedback with good faith in hope to make DRK have a unique and better designed gameplay experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    it's a general comment but consider the tank forum history, DRK threads history to be more precise and the huge amount of feedback and issues with the job unadressed i won't be surprised that comment is being aimed to us and Healer sub-forum too, i pretty much belive they see our forum and our complains and they choose to don't do anything or worst just the contrary of what we ask despite being so many ppl posting feedback with good faith in hope to make DRK have a unique and better designed gameplay experience.
    That’s a very childish and immature mindset. I hope the adults win out if what you said is the issue. If not, that’s a cancer, and they’ll be activision blizzard before you know it.
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    Last edited by Danelo; 01-10-2022 at 08:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danelo View Post
    That’s a very childish and immature mindset. I hope the adults win out if what you said is the issue. If not, that’s a cancer, and they’ll be activision blizzard before you know it.
    Probably, im just tired of giving my feedback in the best way with my limitations and support another hundred more from others just to see patch after patch they do nothing about it, i thinked long ago about bring good manners and well presented threads just hoping they would listen and do it if they get at the same time good support from others, and they fairly did get support, more than other request that have been implemented just to still get nothing from them, more like the contrary by judging this expansion.

    I just feel it's doesn't matter if we hold hands together, offer an apologice and offer our best well presented feedback or we just yell at them and insult them or whatever we aren't going to see a proper DRK anymore, to many years suffering since HW specially this last 3 to don't think it's a lost cause bcs they just didn't care before so why they would care now? DRK is first at dps right? my apologices i know i should be better than this.
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    Last edited by shao32; 01-10-2022 at 08:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    Here is our official answer:

    ・作っている方もいるので罵詈雑言だけは止めていただきたい
    →ちょっと言葉が強すぎるところがある、スタッフが凹んでしまうのでエンターを押す前に考えてほしい
    Staff members DO READ the official forums of all language. Please exercise moderation and be civil when providing feedback.
    -> There are several posts where people were indeed providing feedback with strong language. This will discourage the staff members so please be polite and always double check and think through before pressing enter.


    Considering how active we have been in the forum and the overall reactions about DRK status compared to other jobs/stuff of the game in the last years this basically could be in great part aimed to us, in other words it's probable the current sad state of DRK gameplay experience could be like that bcs we have been so rude they choose to don't adress anything and keep the line bcs of it, independent of how much that could feed back the frustration and rudeness against them.
    Idk what to think to be honest, i understand they posture but at the same time i don't find it to be a proper solution either if that is actually the reason DRK gameplay is so horrible right now, it could have been fixed if they have posted in our threads telling us our feedback is being to rude and they would ignore it bcs of it way more sooner, not only we would see them interacting with us and we see they read us and correct our manners way more early they could have prevented the current levels of animosity against them.
    Bhahaha so on top of being unprofessional biased inept hacks, they're also petty. ZERO perspective.
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