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    Vane Weaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Catching up on the discussion, I feel like we're no closer to understanding how sundering the world is equivalent to outright killing it. But the real question is: why should we forcibly equivocate the two?

    Ah, Venat, the mitotic murderer. You know, life is full of these little setbacks. One moment you're a veritable god, able to create and extinguish entire species with the snap of your imagination. The next, you're just a mere Hyur (unless you had the good sense to fantasia), with taxes to pay and laundry to do. Perhaps growing up and facing the real world feels kinda, sorta, maybe as bad as dying. But that's a critical distinction - it isn't the same as dying. And that which doesn't kill you... makes you Azem.

    Don't get me wrong, I understand full well that Venat is the true main villain of this story (the writers got it all wrong, they're just out to foist a friendship and love agenda). Thank goodness that we're smarter than them. But why are we so invested in making Venat out to be the big bad in the first place?
    Disingenuity doesn't suit you.

    If you want to understand Venat's actions, then you really need to look at them through the lens of Azem. Her attitudes and decisions, whether you agree with them or not, are well in keeping with someone who has spent many lifetimes in that role.
    I don't think it's in keeping with Venat-as-Azem to do nothing and allow all her friends across the world to die. Between the end of Elpis and post-first sacrifice she appears to have done absolutely nothing. WoL certainly would not have sat back and burdened some future generation with resolving the conflict.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kordarion View Post
    It is true that there is no evidence that we couldn't cross the timelines and save both, but in the same vein there is no evidence that says we could either.
    We are easily able to travel back and forth in time once the connection is established. Why should the portal be irreparably closed just because a branch in the timeline is created?
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    Last edited by Veloran; 01-08-2022 at 05:18 PM.