Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

[SieyaM]

I was hoping to try and learn savage this weekend, since I really love the weapons this time around, but if the party finder is going to be this intense I may just be out of luck. I've never cleared a savage tier before and since I am not an incredible player I am going to need some patient people. I did check the PF yesterday and someone was requiring an ilvl of 575 for a learning party, which I found odd since unless you have already completed savage you can't get an ilvl that high I don't think.

[Crossu]

I was hoping to try and learn savage this weekend, since I really love the weapons this time around, but if the party finder is going to be this intense I may just be out of luck. I've never cleared a savage tier before and since I am not an incredible player I am going to need some patient people. I did check the PF yesterday and someone was requiring an ilvl of 575 for a learning party, which I found odd since unless you have already completed savage you can't get an ilvl that high I don't think.

You can get 575 by doing some extremes and normal raids, 580 if you are fully crafted. The ilvl is 575 because that's the min. ilvl for the first turn of Savage.

[PonifiedBeast]

Skip soar or disband

[Larirawiel]

It isn't the WoW players. It's the raider mentality.

It is not the raider mentality. The point is, if you give the players the choice whether they can achieve something in an efficient way or a way which makes fun then they will almost always choose the efficient way and optimize the fun out of the game. And this is the reason why the game devs must pay attention that the efficient way to play a game makes also fun. If not, then the players will first choose the efficient way which is not fun and then stop playing the game because it is not fun at all.

The WoW devs fail badly at this point and as a player you have to choose. And the results of it you can see on websites like raider.io etc. Those websites increase the efficiency to play harder content because you can sort out many players.


Cheers

[Bsrking5]

I seen a 580 min ilvl yesterday for a shb ex, i think it was dancing plague. Some make sense others don't. Haven't really seen anything out of place in pf, just the usual nonsense.

[Airget]

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

Honestly, just ignore them, if that's how they setup their PF, you can either make your own PF and find one that isn't as strict as those. There are always going to be people that micro that much and if you don't enjoy it it's better to just ignore it and find likeminded players you can have fun playing with.

[Awful]

Skip Soar or Disband rises from the ashes.

[Zomkei]

I was hoping to try and learn savage this weekend, since I really love the weapons this time around, but if the party finder is going to be this intense I may just be out of luck. I've never cleared a savage tier before and since I am not an incredible player I am going to need some patient people. I did check the PF yesterday and someone was requiring an ilvl of 575 for a learning party, which I found odd since unless you have already completed savage you can't get an ilvl that high I don't think.

someone already answered the ilvl remark, so i wont get into that, but just make your own PF. if the others are a concern, make a PF asking for a chill / casual learning experience. if someone gets an attitude or starts something, you can kick, replace and move on. there are other casual ppl looking to learn who would join your PF. aside from that, to be honest i suggest learning current extremes before you jump into savage with no prior experience.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

This thread has done a really job at making sure I stay out of high end content. Im one person who took the time to post it. Crap like this is what I tried to get away from in WoW. Guess I will just work on jobs to 90 and omnicrafting.

[Ayuhra]

This is reminding me of a group in group finder in WoW I saw once that advertised

"BAD players only! Don't know mechanics and come unprepared. DPS must be bad or kick."

I joined the group, heh.

...We one shotted everything.