Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

[JanVanding]

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

We've been here since ARR thanks.

I don't like this Moniker of "WoW crowd"

You do realise a large majority of the playerbase can consider themselves former WoW players with various points of jump off from WoW to here?

Even most of the remaining 1.0 players are from WoW as well.

Most of the streaming personalities you watch before Asmongold and Rich came over, also originally played WoW...

YoshiP played WoW.

Stop looking for a straw man for a bad experience, there have been bad attitude players long before they exodus, they will be here long after. It's just the community loves to rose tinted glasses and ignore it's a problem and has been since forever.

[Evergrey]

I've seen "know fight or kick" PF groups first day of release many times over.
It's nothing new.

[Quintessa]

Both "groups" are making this game not fun to play...

[Reinha]

If you don't make mistakes and just want a clear, why would you want to play with players who make lots of mistakes and don't know their job?

If you are the first type of player, these "toxic" groups (aka frustrated players tired of wiping because of poor quality teammates) are great for getting the clear. I got many nearly flawless unreal runs by joining them.

If you are the second kind of player and you feel like you're being called out, it means the pf description did its job by keeping you out. Make your own relaxed practice party and don't take it so personally that you're not playing up to a random person's standards.

[eaudaemon]

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

Lol I've seen these kinds of PFs way before the "Great Wow" migration happened, this isn't a new thing, don't blame the WOW crowd that we the FF14 community condoned since Extreme/savage has been introduced.

[SieyaM]

You can get 575 by doing some extremes and normal raids, 580 if you are fully crafted. The ilvl is 575 because that's the min. ilvl for the first turn of Savage.

I thought the ilvl for the first turn was 570, that is what all the other parties had listed anyway

[RobynDaBank]

I bet they came from SWtOR too!

[kpxmanifesto]

I don't see too much of a difference. It was like that in 2014, and it's like that now too.

[Vahlnir]

The PF has always looked like that. I understand that WoW players make for easy scapegoats though, especially for the FF XIV community, where they have an "us vs them" mentality. You'd be amazed by how many WoW players sing their praises about FF XIV. Also, if it wasn't for WoW, FF XIV as we know it probably wouldn't exist in the first place. You're welcome.

[Saimeren]

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

This feels like nothing more than you looking for a reason to crap on players that you have a preconceived prejudice toward.

Just because you feel there's a stigma around a player playing a different game than you doesn't give you the right to belittle them.

Don't be a jerk toward the new players coming in.

Edit: I'm willing to bet that this kind of stuff has always been there. You just now have someone else to blame it on other than your own "perfect" community. Everyone in 14 seems to think their community is so nice and positive and helpful and chatty and warm and welcoming.. But you're not. Not really.

The only reason you feel this way is because everyone bands together to defend themselves against people who say otherwise. It's the mob mentality of wanting to belong and feel solidarity.

You want to believe you're good people, but you're pretty quick to jump down the throats of anyone who calls you out on it. The 14 community at large is no different than the WoW players you're so quick to hate on.