Does SGE need potency buffs?

[RinaShinomiya]

Panic buttons

Taurochole is SGE's Excog, it's only 100 potency weaker but doesn't have the 50% HP down requirement making it usable in more situations. I don't think Panic buttons are a good mindset to have as a healer, esp OGCD dependent one like SCH or SGE. You rotate your OGCD's most of them even give a 10% damage mitigation. Use healing buff ability visely, like Physis or Krasis and most situations shouldn't pose an issue. If that's not enough then just GCD heal. This isn't WHM where we can pull a 100% HP heal out of thin air. As for Walking Dead that has been a problem child since forever and will be a problem child for the rest of DRK's life.

Soteria

That... not the skill to compare to at all! Soteria has no equivalent on SCH and that's not even a tool that really makes SGE stronger over SCH because like you said SGE will miss one or two attacks by GCD healing Soteria can make up for that lost Kardia uptime. And that's fine.
The skill that compares directly to SCH's Aetherpact is Haima.

Dyskrasia

You'd need at least 32 mobs for Toxicon to be weaker than Dyskrasia. Yes the AoE is 5p weaker than Dyskrasia but don't forget that one of the mobs gets hit for the full 330 potency. Needless to say this amount of targets never comes up so in most cases Toxicon is a slight DPS gain, assuming you cast it prior to a pull / downtime. Yeah in single target fights it's not that great but so is Afflatus misery. I think both need a buff. even if they buff Toxicon to have Phlegma numbers, that'd be a DPS gain in situations where you can prepare it during downtime and feel more rewarding while still being a DPS loss when compared to 2 Dosis casts.

Pepsis

So Scholar gets a 840 potency heal with E.tictacs with the potential to crit and Sage gets 750 with the potential that some of that barrier sponges damage before going to get transformed into HP and the potential of erecting a Secondary barrier with crits. That's again just a difference of 90 potency and whatever we're losing on which isn't an incredible amount. I honestly don't see the issue and esp with Toxicon being the exact same potency right now losing out on it is just non-consequential. Not to mention according to Momo you can pop Pepsis right as the shield is breaking and still get the heal although i didn't pull it off myself yet

For all these comparisons i'm actually surprise you didn't mention Krasis, which is a 10% max HP heal weaker than Protraction. But i'd say even that doesn't need to be buffed because we have stuff like Pneuma a 600 potency heal (900 if used with Zoe) that Scholar just doesn't have an answer for. And that's fine. These two classes are already nearly identical, they don't need to resemble each other even more.

[Archwizard]

Taurochole is SGE's Excog

I do have some objection to this interpretation, since you can Recitation Excog for a fairly beefy oGCD crit heal that can only be activated when the tank is already low (the essence of a panic heal), where Taurochole's main pull and distinction is the 10% mitigation effect that you would rotate in fairly early into the pull (provided that you're not overhealing, or overwriting Kerachole) and is "only 100p" stronger than Druochole to boot. The potencies are similar but the use-cases are very different...

in most cases Toxicon is a slight DPS gain, assuming you cast it prior to a pull / downtime. Yeah in single target fights it's not that great but so is Afflatus misery. I think both need a buff. even if they buff Toxicon to have Phlegma numbers, that'd be a DPS gain in situations where you can prepare it during downtime and feel more rewarding while still being a DPS loss when compared to 2 Dosis casts.

So what I'm getting from is "not for the same reasons, but yes to the conclusion that it should be bumped up"?

So Scholar gets a 840 potency heal with E.tictacs with the potential to crit and Sage gets 750 with the potential that some of that barrier sponges damage before going to get transformed into HP and the potential of erecting a Secondary barrier with crits.

I'm still not fully convinced to the value of Pepsis considering the Addersting loss and the lack of interaction/healing with Differential Diagnosis.
Especially since unlike ET, you can actually see if the barrier had crit before you use it without needing a CD to guarantee it... though I suppose at least with Differential that's an issue of preference at worst, since you'd at least know if there's a barrier left behind...

Either way, I still think it should at least return an Addersting if it consumes a single-target barrier, though.

For all these comparisons i'm actually surprise you didn't mention Krasis, which is a 10% max HP heal weaker than Protraction.

Why would I need to bring up Krasis? I don't want to see the jobs homogenized.
It's also a 10% boost in healing over Protraction, so they're already even in my book.
Though admittedly, if the two jobs had swapped them it would be a different story, since an argument could be made about whether either would work better in the other's kit.

[RinaShinomiya]

I do have some objection to this interpretation, since you can Recitation Excog for a fairly beefy oGCD crit heal that can only be activated when the tank is already low (the essence of a panic heal), where Taurochole's main pull and distinction is the 10% mitigation effect that you would rotate in fairly early into the pull (provided that you're not overhealing, or overwriting Kerachole) and is "only 100p" stronger than Druochole to boot. The potencies are similar but the use-cases are very different...

And my point about panic buttons still stands, you shouldn't be letting your tank falling that low. Crit-Excog is a double weave and a DPS loss in most situations since you're gonna clip GCD. And even then Taurochole can still crit itself, we just don't have a button that forces a crit.

So what I'm getting from is "not for the same reasons, but yes to the conclusion that it should be bumped up"?

Yeah. Toxicon is very underwhelming in bossfights and the very reason why losing one to pepsis isn't a big deal right now. It's most useful in dungeons (which coincidentally is also Afflatus Misery's strength).

I'm still not fully convinced to the value of Pepsis considering the Addersting loss and the lack of interaction/healing with Differential Diagnosis.
Especially since unlike ET, you can actually see if the barrier had crit before you use it without needing a CD to guarantee it... though I suppose at least with Differential that's an issue of preference at worst, since you'd at least know if there's a barrier left behind...

And i'm not sure why you value Addersting so highly. Even if we use Toxicon instead of Dosis we're not getting the 900 MP back we used on Diagnosis. We're still negative 500MP from that interaction and the DPS is lost on the Diagnosis cast either way. Leaving a barrier behind for 30s is essentially the same as healing the same amount with the difference that we can't overheal that barrier amount. If you use Diagnosis and Pepsis to top someone off and you end up critting that's just a net positive in my book while on SCH all those HP would go to waste in the exact same situation.