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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Sep 2011
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    Character
    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    So, you are against everything that makes it easier for players to do stuff. Are you then also against all these fan sites that are out there? Who help you create crafting rotations or show you the most efficient route of gathering materials? Who have timer for gathering nodes or FATE spawns? Which use math and probability to "solve" cactpot?

    Because if you are not against them, you are a hypocrite.
    Used YouTube to learn about your job? Third-party tool. Banned.
    Visited the Balance? Third-party tool. Banned.
    Used Garland Tools to more handily figure out where to get the materials for what you intend to craft? Third-party tool. Banned.
    Used a calculator at some point? Third-party tool. Banned.
    Recorded your gameplay for future reference or sharing? Third-party tool. Banned.
    Streamed on Twitch? Third-party tool. Banned.
    Mathed out your chances for optimizing your Cactpot on a piece of paper? Not SE's. Banned.

    I'm not sure why people think that having an overlay is somehow fundamentally different than, say, a picture-in-picture mini-window of the website they're borrowing crafting rotations from. And, as you said, if the latter is permitted...


    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Its not even about that, cheating and modding, makin things easier as theyre supposed to be gets us to a point where you either use it or be left behind....
    There's a difference between a plugin that shouts at you which mechanic is coming next and one that simply makes your UI something you can stand or that allows for better PF filtering, prevents getting booted over certain types of lobby errors, corrects netcode as not to doubly punish players for their ping in attempting to double-weave, etc.

    The prior is a cheat and yes, should be prevented; the latter is the community picking up the slack for the dev team.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-07-2022 at 11:55 AM.