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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I’m fine with people disagreeing with me. It’s when they resort to disgusting tactics like emotional manipulation, using someone’s cancer or a global pandemic to try and prove a false point that is a problem. Just so happens so is insulting others and you’ve ticked all the boxes so i’ll just refrain from engaging with you.
    Hmm let's see. Never used any emotional manipulation which is laughable considering you're getting emotional yourself. Never used someone's "Cancer". Ah yes global pandemic. I guess them trying to obtain new servers but can't because of the global pandemic is also a false point too. "But it's a big company they should have more people and this and that" - You realize their workers are comprised of people. Normal people. Who get sick.

    Was there some sort of magic thing were if I work in a big corporation that I don't get sick? You throw around the "Well it's a big corporation" a lot. And insulting? Seems you can't handle a blunt confrontation and turn tail. If you really get offended over entitlement and adolescence then maybe you should stay off the forums.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    Hmm let's see. Never used any emotional manipulation which is laughable considering you're getting emotional yourself. Never used someone's "Cancer".
    Holy crap, he's not even talking about you!



    Edit: If this guy's trolling, I'll admit, he's got me real good.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    Holy crap, he's not even talking about you!



    Edit: If this guy's trolling, I'll admit, he's got me real good.
    Yeah i was talking generally. The insult comment though was pertaining to them since they wanted to make accusations of people being “dense.”
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    this community has a bizarre habit of thinking the game is made by like 5 people..
    With the atrocious amount of content being cut, it is starting to look like this, though.
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    I would've taken you seriously and agreed if you were actually constructive about it... instead all I see is a tantrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyxls View Post
    I would've taken you seriously and agreed if you were actually constructive about it... instead all I see is a tantrum.
    Define constructive. He compared to other expansions and explained why they feel it is lacking, what else there is to be said?
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyxls View Post
    I would've taken you seriously and agreed if you were actually constructive about it... instead all I see is a tantrum.
    Could you explain what more i need to say or how to be any more constructive about this? I’m surprised you’re saying this about my post and not the people emotionally manipulating me via someone’s cancer experience. My other posts have even given examples comparing this expansion to the others.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    Define constructive. He compared to other expansions and explained why they feel it is lacking, what else there is to be said?
    Constructive, especially constructive criticism is delivering feedback whilst providing supporting examples in addition to suggestions on what the development team could do going forward or what could be done going forward to improve. So far, only criticism has been provided.

    Simply pointing out flaws in very selective pieces of content which is apparently a very setting trend on a couple of threads is just criticism, it is not constructive, and by the very nature of being selective will never be constructive, simply because it ignores the bigger picture and does not account for quantity can often be substituted for quality. Just compare Radz-at-Han and Old Sharlayan to Idyllshire and Rhalgrs Reach if you want an example of quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Could you explain what more i need to say or how to be any more constructive about this? I’m surprised you’re saying this about my post and not the people emotionally manipulating me via someone’s cancer experience. My other posts have even given examples comparing this expansion to the others.
    Ironically it is equally insensitive and emotionally insensitive as to not consider these as genuine issues, be it COVID or the health issues, and subsequently continuing on with a tirade neglecting all the potential logistical issues that occur as a result, which you as a gamer do not see.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 01-07-2022 at 08:33 AM.

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
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    I don’t think we should make assumptions on other people personally. I don’t think it’s equally emotionally insensitive to say that certain events aren’t as impactful as people regard them as versus trying to use someone’s life threatening struggles as a way to make your point or disagree with someone. But you’re entitled to your opinion. As i’ve stated before, Covid was for sure an issue for a good amount of ShB, however content was missing even before it existed. I’ve stated how they had a 6-7 month delay to account for any problems covid may have created, with them working at 90% efficiency before they took said delay. We know they have other composers, now if Soken having cancer did indeed impact things so much so that not even 7 months was enough, that still seems like a major problem on SE’s end that they relied upon and put so much work onto one man. Considering how much money this game has made, they should be able to hire more people whilst scarce, they’ve had ample time to do so. I’ve had other threads where i am indeed constructive and it still results in the same amount of scorn and ire from this community. Again, as someone else stated, it only took 3 minutes from me making my post for someone to immediately resort to emotional manipulation because they didn’t agree with me, while others have just downright insulted. I see that as worse than not giving exact constructive criticism as that’s a hindrance to anyone wanting to give feedback and criticism in the future. I never said covid wasn’t a genuine issue, so i’d rather you not try to put words in my mouth, as at that point you’re also being a hindrance to your own argument. These issues should be brought up, and i do hope people continue with this “tirade” of bringing things up as opposed to giving in to the disrespectful people trying to shut people down. In the end the people expressing their concerns just want what’s best for the game. The people who insult and defend bad practice are just hurting the game in the long run.As a person, i see that. Not simply as a gamer as that doesn’t define my identity.
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