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    Player kpxmanifesto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    I criticize the game myself. Your point?
    C'mon man, it's not a riddle. You don't have to be petty and disrespectful to someone because they criticized FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    You mean all the miniscule things that don't really matter but people like you make it out bigger than what it really is? You take something that is completely mundane and act like it's the end of the world over it. The same threads pop up over and over from people like you - "Omg they didn't do this or Omg they didn't add the exact same things from the other expansion or this current thread".... wHAt a DOwNgrAde. Move on now.
    Wow now the music is "miniscule and completely mundane" because someone complained that we have less music in the game? Dont you know Soken was in the hospital with cancer.
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    Last edited by Y2K21; 01-07-2022 at 12:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    You mean all the miniscule things that don't really matter but people like you make it out bigger than what it really is? You take something that is completely mundane and act like it's the end of the world over it. The same threads pop up over and over from people like you - "Omg they didn't do this or Omg they didn't add the exact same things from the other expansion or this current thread".... wHAt a DOwNgrAde. Move on now.
    People like me? You mean people that are paying a sub right? I’m allowed to voice my criticisms and yes, i’m going to bring up that in the expansion succeeding the one which broke record sales is the one that is seeing the most downgrades on early patch releases alone. At least i’m not the one using someone’s health and a global pandemic as constant excuses for it. It clearly matters if multiple people keep bringing it up, at that point it’s clearly an issue. I’m sorry that i don’t blindly eat up every little thing the devs give out. I voice my concerns with the game that i pay for. All of these things pile onto each other and that’s when it becomes a major issue.
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    It's honestly baffling this game doesn't have voiced boss fights still after six plus years of savage. E8, 11, 12, all had it, then what, they stopped caring to hire voice actors? What even happened?
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    I know some will probably complain at this but, it's just another raid fight do you really need a "new theme" just for Savage? Can't you enjoy the fight with the music as it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garruss View Post
    I know some will probably complain at this but, it's just another raid fight do you really need a "new theme" just for Savage? Can't you enjoy the fight with the music as it is?
    It's the same equivalent as if they played, I don't know, the 1.0 Battle Music during the Shinryu fight? I don't paint myself as a musical genius but I think there's a certain layer of excitement that gets added when a song drastically shifts into something new coupled together with something you've never seen before, like whiplash on your ears or something. Savage is supposed to be exciting. Like, maybe an extra lyric or two? You don't even really need an entire new song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    So just found out that the p2 of P4s doesnt even have a new theme... its the same theme. We're only getting 2 new songs in this raid tier as opposed to Eden's what, 3-4? Along with no voice acting. How many more downgrades at this rate jesus...
    Funny enough we got actually 3 themes, the Pandaemonium hub, 1-3 and 4.

    But voice acting is so erratic i wasn't really expecting at all despite the teaser of the raid with an actual voice. Maybe they will put in 2nd and 3rd tier, who knows.

    Although I will say the part 2 of p4s could have even used a slight change of the song, maybe even more macabre but overall 1-3 worked fine with Ancient Shackles imo.
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    One thing to keep in mind is the game has already the most unique music of any mmo. Guineas record actually.

    Just because this one tier might be slacking does mean the entire expansion will so before passing judgment it helps to wait til we have the entire picture.

    While yes we can't blame covid on every thing but at the same time it's important to remember it's surging like crazy at the moment and many companies are lacking man power. While it might have faults in some areas it's by MO means the worse. The main focus was providing an excellent story wrap up and on that side they surpassed expectations largely by most.

    Like sure would more music and unique armors be great. Heck yeah, but it's not as if the game lacks tons of unique variations.

    The raid tier is pretty fun and overall an the extremes were pretty on par for starter ones.

    If your biggest issue is the game doesn't 100% your expectations it's fine to voice your opinion, but most of these problems are only issues other mmos wish they had. Like I'd likely still be playing wow if my biggest problem with the game was reused assets and the lack of a song.

    I think at this point they deliver pretty much exactly what you expect and while it may not check all the boxes every single time it does so with enough consistency that the game is still and overall positive experience, and if it's no longer good enough then perhaps it's time to move on.
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    Compared to all the previous expansions before EW

    A Realm Reborn = Holds the most number of content which is understandable because they needed to keep players busy while they had to fix their mistakes and everything was experimental, their raid The Coils of Bahamut felt like an actual raid, had Voice Acting albeit only near the end and they even had a CG cutscene that explains everything after Louisoux teleported everyone and was left to fight Bahamut on his own. Coils felt like a proper raid.

    Heavensward = They really started to up their musical scores and the battle arena's were good and interesting when fighting Bismarck for the 1st time was great, Sophia tilting the arena, Zurvan breaking free thus making the arena smaller was all good. Alexander raids also felt like a proper Raid which they should've kept that formula where in normal raids you all rampage through Alexander and you get to see the spectacle and magnitude of a Primal, there is a literal city inside it and that was great and in Savage it takes you straight to the boss which was great. The Soundtracks in Alexander Raids were absolute bangers.

    Stormblood = Trials were amazing in this one, the QTE when you need to clash against Susan's sword, the riding on Shinryu and then running on his tail to his back while dodging lazers were phenomenal this fight is one of the fights that they need to bring back doing mad stunts and not just have a 1 Square or Circle arena like what we have nowadays. Sadly Stormblood was the beginning of the Mini-Trial formula disguised as Raids where you just fight bosses that they could've just been Trials at this point, when I started doing it for the 1st time I was at first okay with it because I considered the story of the Omega Raids a "Tournament Arc" kind of story, the soundtracks were good and Omega's Theme was an absolute banger.

    Shadowbringers = They did an amazing job with the music in the Trials but what bothered me the most is the absolute huge lack of voice acting in the important side content the Weapon story line and Bozja, the cutscenes production value was much better than the rest when it came to side content but they have been dulled down due to no voice acting, the actions and body language characters made fell really short without the voice acting, examples being: Valens’ chanting "Burn out the Bad!", Valens’ hysterical laughter when the Ala Mhigan wife pleaded him to let her and her daughter go after the passing husband agreed to take the experiment and many other examples, similar example is within the Raids when Gaia and Ryne laugh, it looks... weird that you can clearly see they are laughing but it's just body language. The Eden raids were pretty good but I could see the degradation of raid fights and arenas and it made me realize that this is the formula they gonna stick to because it is quicker and easier for them to make them and I feared that any future content made will degrade further and I was right, it has in EW.
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    Last edited by OM3GA-Z3RO; 01-06-2022 at 08:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EverQuest View Post
    One thing to keep in mind is the game has already the most unique music of any mmo. Guineas record actually.
    See I feel like they heard about this during ARR and then used it as an excuse to be extremely lazy with their soundtracks from then on.
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