Where is all the content?

[Sclair0]

1. Gearsets. Big agree, there's been obvious cut backs in this department. If they need to reuse gearsets then they could at least change which classes they are locked to, that would go a long way to making them at least feel 'new'
2. Music. Im quite satisfied with the music for this expansion. I'd always love more but I didn't find it lacking
3. Zone Size. Sorta Aree. Labarynthos and Ultima Thule are fine in their smallness, makes doing things like fates easier. I wish the Moon was bigger though! I want more moon landmarks!
4. I agree- It is very weird Elidibus doesn't have Ryne style voice lines. (This might mean the 24 man is voiced though?).
5. I have no idea about server infrastructure

6. I love the story. Your points are fine here, I also found the ultima thule stuff predictable, but not in a bad way. In sort of a classic Final Fantasy way. Meteion seemed to fill the niche of 11th hour villain from previous FF games as well as being more of a symbol for antagonistic themes in the story. Some of Venat's plan has a lot of holes though, especially given Graha already confirmed you can time travel and change things without destroying the universe.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Where's all the content?

Being enjoyed by me, good sir.

[Iscah]

Some of Venat's plan has a lot of holes though, especially given Graha already confirmed you can time travel and change things without destroying the universe.

Different goals though. G'raha is trying to break away from the future that he came from. Venat wants to keep time on the course that will eventually bring her to you in the present day so she can help you save your world even if hers is doomed.

[Sclair0]

Different goals though. G'raha is trying to break away from the future that he came from. Venat wants to keep time on the course that will eventually bring her to you in the present day so she can help you save your world even if hers is doomed.

Exactly. Venat decides you're the best bet based on maybe a weekend of hangout time, and decides not to let the ancients even try to defeat Meteion.

Not that I think its bad, I get what they were going for with the whole "She waited all this time for you, and she even had a backup plan in case it didnt work." BUT it needed a bit of a once over writing wise in regards to the time travel imo.

[Iscah]

Exactly. Venat decides you're the best bet based on maybe a weekend of hangout time, and decides not to let the ancients even try to defeat Meteion.

Not that I think its bad, I get what they were going for with the whole "She waited all this time for you, and she even had a backup plan in case it didnt work." BUT it needed a bit of a once over writing wise in regards to the time travel imo.

As I see it, our arrival in Elpis has "locked in" the events of the time loop. Events can't not lead to us travelling back there, and the most that she could achieve by trying to deny that fate would be to create a second diverging timeline where she doesn't act on it.

That said, as I've commented in a few places, I think the whole thing would have been much neater if her memories were wiped along with the others and she went on to become Hydaelyn for her own independent reasons, without that foreknowledge. She could still regain the memories once she's in the aetherial sea.

[myahele]

The issue is to keep it simple, that the game has become (more popular and profitable.) Yet the production budget seems to always stay relatively the same for each expansion and patches.

If FF14 really is SE most profitable IP, then where are all the funds going?

It's a real shame the company is not willing to inject some serious and substantial amount of funds and resources back into the game's development.

Probably other projects and to recoup some losses from them such as the Avengers and Luminous Production; Forespoken and Babylon's Fall doesn't seem to have lukewarm reception as well.

They supposedly used money from the cash shop to finance the EU servers years ago and probably future servers, so it doesn't even look like SE is supporting them on that end.

[Raven2014]

Exactly. Venat decides you're the best bet based on maybe a weekend of hangout time, and decides not to let the ancients even try to defeat Meteion.

Not that I think its bad, I get what they were going for with the whole "She waited all this time for you, and she even had a backup plan in case it didnt work." BUT it needed a bit of a once over writing wise in regards to the time travel imo.

And that's because her end goal is to stop the end of mankind in the long term, not the final day. The final day is just one of many way for civilization to die, it's merely an mean to an end. People keep asking why Venat doesn't try to stop the final day ... because it's never her goal? Why should it be? She knew the ancient would be able to stop it. By the time Hydaelin was conceived the final day was already stopped by Zodiac, so that was never her purpose anyway. She wanted to make sure mankind can continue to reach new height and flourish without running into the deadend like the dead civilization in Metion's report.

The story implied this through more occassion than you have fingers, yet people still somehow "tunnel vision" into the issue of the final day. Before parting way with you in Elpis, she stated that the key to a long term solution is to seek out the answer to Herme's question. When she met you again and before giving you the last trial, she said "if you pass this test I will listen to the answer of the question I asked you all those years ago". Only once she's satisfied with this she would entrust you with mankind future. The theme song of the game for the last 10 years is even called The Answer people, like how can the story make it more obvious to you!? Hell, even Emer-Setch last word allure to the samething, he still pissed that she sundered them, but admit his method (relying on Zodiac) would not have take mankind to the new height like Hydaelin did.

[Sclair0]

And that's because her end goal is to stop the end of mankind in the long term, not the final day. The final day is just one of many way for civilization to die, it's merely an mean to an end. People keep asking why Venat doesn't try to stop the final day ... because it's never her goal? Why should it be?

Because preventing the end of civilization is generally a good thing, and working with the people you've known for decades to tackle a problem is generally more favourable than working with someone you met for a couple hours ago, just cause they smell vaguely like your own magic.

The story implied this through more occassion than you have fingers, yet people still somehow "tunnel vision" into the issue of the final day. Before parting way with you in Elpis, she stated that the key to a long term solution is to seek out the answer to Herme's question. When she met you again and before giving you the last trial, she said "if you pass this test I will listen to the answer of the question I asked you all those years ago". Only once she's satisfied with this she would entrust you with mankind future. The theme song of the game for the last 10 years is even called The Answer people, like how can the story make it more obvious to you!? Hell, even Emer-Setch last word allure to the samething, he still pissed that she sundered them, but admit his method (relying on Zodiac) would not have take mankind to the new height like Hydaelin did.

I don't think any of this addresses the main problem of my complaint on the time travel holes. Venat keeps everything to herself and the only diegetic reasoning she explained is "Hermes might not work with us if he knew." She wants to solve the problem of a nihilistic universe but lets absolutely no one attempt to tackle the issue. (Though maybe some of that will be tackled in the Twelve Raid.)

The issue isnt "Hur dur Final Days is the problem" (Though like, genuinely preventing the suffering caused by it should have been or her agenda, and killing/changing Meteions nest is basically all we do as our answer anyway). The issue is she let no one in on any plans.

The funny thing is she actually failed. In the original timeline the WoL dies never knowing the plan, if it hadn't been for a collaboration of the leftover learned people (something she explicitly avoided using) she'd have failed entirely in her plan to bank everything on the WoL.

Now I absolutely love the Endwalker story. Thematically its great (everything surrounding Venat as well). It just needed some diagetic touch ups

[TaleraRistain]

How about we get new deep dungeon, new relic weapons, new land for housing they were hinting at on top of other new content that we don't know about yet? That'd be cute.

Those things are never released this early in the new expansion cycle. We will almost certainly get new relic weapons with or without zones like Eureka or Bozja. But the first of those patches is still a ways off if they stick to their normal schedules.

[TheRealQuah]

Yet another troll thread with 12 pages of replies. This post was bait and should have been obvious when the first 2 points made in it were categorically untrue.

The trolls have one thing right, some of you will do absolutely anything to defend this game, even falling for troll bait threads constantly.